JPEG XL

Happy New Year everyone!

https://tenor.com/view/aesthetic-beautiful-flower-water-wow-gif-16123099

This will be the Year of the JPEG XL, I can feel it

More likely that than the year of the linux desktop😅

first jxl-rs PR of the year 🙂 https://github.com/libjxl/jxl-rs/pull/81

Happy new year from London!

manjaro logo be like

I walked for 90 minutes through the snow, 10k steps, to get home from the new year's party I was at. Starting 2025 off strong with good exercise.

good job!!

i walked a lot yesterday... i'm getting back in the gym too as soon as it opens again

I was at my first new year's party, so got a hell of a view as a first time

If only my phone did HDR capture or jpegli encoding 😔

shoot in RAW DNG then compress it yourself with jpegli <:KekDog:805390049033191445>

simply press the shutter button 30 times per second and edit them into a beautiful wide gamut hdr lossless video

That makes me wonder. Could (or do?) digital cameras, when shooting in burst, use basic lossless inter-frame prediction to allow you to take many more burst shots before the buffer is full? Like if the next image can be compressed to 10% of the original by using the previous image as a reference and then entropy coding the residuals, you'd probably get a lot more space in your buffer for free, especially if there's little noise and you hold the camera still. So long as your prediction and entropy coding pipeline can keep up with the rate at which your camera can shoot bursts

I imagine a three layer thing, one buffer for storing the values immediately, which feeds another one that stores the compressed burst sequence and of course the last one is the storage medium

I guess one problem with this is that you can't start moving images from the compressed buffer to storage in FIFO order, because then you lose the source image that the predictions reference. But you could probably resolve the second image consisting of prediction residuals to the complete data before you move out the first image

> use basic lossless inter-frame prediction to allow you to take many more burst shots before the buffer is full? no, and blame red

well, maybe kinda yes, kinda no. it's a legal gray area. I guess if it's only ever stored in memory it's probably fine

it's not really that useful tho I don't think

like at some point it's going to be better to just record video and take frames from it

damn, patents?

okay, how about: lossless inter-frame prediction for burst shots *with adaptive probabilities*

the patent office will love it

I did, but there's no wide angle or anything and I had nothing to stabilise on, so it's only of a single firework going off with a blurry view of the distant ones

Or how about almost-but-not-quite-lossless -q 99.999999 inter-frame prediction for burst shots

Just to make it different enough

Like 1 pixel changes by one ulp in the entire image

What if we make it turn the video upside down

Twice

Motioncam, while paid for the pro version, is actually a quite nice solution fpr filming RAW video on android. Though it does require strong hardware

I think I still have the source for the old version somewhere, but honestly, i don't think its good enough to care about personally

I should really learn how to use RawTherapee properly :P

the new releases are very usable and exporting the motioncam raw to dng makes it possible to import as a sequence in i.e. davinci resolve and get the full benefit

the old versions were quite subpar, that I agree with

I never used it myself, just learned about it, and I care about photo more than video (although a promise of temporal noise reduction for a pic piqued my interest), but [these comparisons](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxJpOqSfXp4) look impressive, no? ([this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf_aWH0sjpk) ridiculously so, even)

Yes, the difference can be massive, especially if editing is done after the recording

I heard the first two notes and expected it to continue like Harry Potter’s music

it’s literally the same notes

Behold, the codec test image from hell

bitrate: 400k?!

Might as well be freakin lossless at that point

it's just a jpeg xl dev roadmap

in fact, I tried to write an algorithm for another way of representing the data, in this case these are rays of light, and the red and blue dots are the angle of inclination

The data is the length of the light. from 1 to 16 units. which is converted to 4 bits, half a byte

Hello world

So that's how you look at Cyrillic...

From a sh*t software author

is this some weird qr code competitor?

maybe

It's just a visualization. The black lines are the path of the ray and don't need to be drawn. the other points should be replaced with reflectors

I gave the demo a try... Taking a single photo froze my phone for around 2 minutes. Guess now I know why the default camera saves uncompressed :P 16.1 MB instead of 22.5 MB, JXL was 13 MB at effort 7

lossless was above Discord’s 10MB limit, so I ran `oggenc -q 10` to get it under it

Interesting. How old is your phone and what model? Motioncam worked fine for photos on my phone from 2017

Motioncam, similar to OpenCamera also does not save linear DNG, it uses "true" RAW

No idea if "true" RAW is a fitting description in this case

Also 2017, Huawei Mate 10 Pro

yeah

Didn't someone get JXL decoding running on it ages ago?

Cloudinary came up in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-opBifFfsMY

<@592287050934386708> have you ever visited this place?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ans%2C_Belgium

Ugh, sad. I'm gonna rub this in the face of whoever at Marketing produced that stuff...

the v in avif is for vaseline <:CatBlobPolice:805388337862279198>

The H is for high bitrate images

AV means Adult Video

AVIF = Adult Video Interchange Format

Then what is av1?

I guess it's <@1013847909139226685> I should ping?

thanks, I haven't been in Belgium so far ... but might at least visit Brussels next month - there should be some science exhibition regarding Polish presidency, also mentioning ANS

the No. 1 adult video

#1 Trending in Adult Videos

That's what people in East Asia would react when seeing "AV"

Let me know when you're in Brussels, I live nearby so if you'd like to have a beer or something, I could come over...

Thank you, I am not certain, will let you know if something

Oh wow ur in this server! Big fan!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jarosław_Duda_(computer_scientist)

Yeah

> the inventor of asymmetric numeral systems Wha- damn

256 bytes data encoded

https://x.com/jyzg/status/1538854845574258688

Guess we have some new noise to add to the decoder ;P

Screentone is already a challenge for all decoders

RTX mario?

I love blue noise! ♥️

🧐

what are the odds, i was researching compression using inverse halftoning around that same time

> But even in 2D, the idea we demonstrated that the mere sampling with a high-quality blue-noise set implies low-pass filtering, hence suppressing moire effects, for example, poses a question about the utility of blue noise for distributing the photosensors in digital cameras. Sounds like an absolute nightmare to manufacture, but cool

I wonder what everyone thinks about the recent CES GPU announcements in here.

Hardware acceleration for encoding JPEG XL?

Wonder how many seconds RTX 5090 would save for that

hardware backed effort 11

libjxl_vk

a GPU accelerated jxl decoder would be amazing for video work

Maybe for a bunch of frames that are all the same size and settings...

Hardware acceleration works well when you have a queue, a pipeline, and a bunch of data going through that all needs the exact same thing done to it

Like an assembly line

If something different suddenly needs to happen then the whole streamlined setup gets ruined

CPUs are kinda the same way too

same settings likely arent needed but same size is a given for video in 99% of cases

Yes same settings... think of an assembly line where there is a queue of homogenized input that all needs the exact same process done to it

That queue gets filled with neat identical-sized chunks of data and that data gets processed in exactly the same way in an assembly line process

Any time you need to make a different decision you have to start the pipeline from scratch

with graphics maybe, but compute pipelines are really flexible now

Hardware accel is a pipeline with data flowing through as fast as possible without interruptions or bottlenecks, every step in the assembly line happening simultaneously

if you are using a vulkan compute pipeline even, you just dispatch what you need, and store those various things in memory

Since its like a pipe or a buffer, and every part of the process is running simultaneously on its own hardware, any changes mean you have to flush what's in the buffer and wait for the pipeline to be empty before you can change the settings and consume input again

I wish vulkan compute was more common/popular

well, it's has a LOT of limitations. Hopefully those limitations will become a lot less painful as vulkan plans on overhauling/unifying their compute/graphics pipeline which should make it considerably more flexible. (Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQR1hk-Ktjs&t=3273s) we are also seeing a lot of work done on abstractions over vulkan compute such as webgpu (we can now run LLMs and stable diffusion and stuff on top of it for instance) or things like https://github.com/charles-r-earp/krnl which I still have yet to play with

the main issue for a GPU-accelerated jxl decoder IMO is mostly the entropy decoding

I wonder how difficult JXL's rANS coding would be to efficiently implement as a circuit.

well all I know is that I don't do any even semi serious programming so it wont be me taking a look at it lel

what % of cpu decode time is spent on entropy decode in a typical case (say vardct e7 d2)?

25-40%? I don't really remember, it's been a while since I looked

so then if you do entropy decode on cpu and the rest on gpu the best you can hope for is a speedup of 2x to 4x?

something along those lines

modular mode doesn't help either, it's very sequential

presumably one could entropy code on GPU assuming sufficiently many frames, but idk

One 4K frame has 128 groups or so (and two full-sized DC groups). That number is too low for GPUs and too high for current CPUs, I suppose...

The entropy coder is super fast on cpu right? So it could probably be a part of a high throughput pipeline maybe...

not *that* low for GPUs actually (I don't imagine you could use warp-parallelism incredibly well there, so a GPU doesn't have *as many* usable threads as one would think)

For good warp parallelism I assume you mostly need to avoid branching, right? Or is that not the main consideration?

warp parallelism ~ SIMD

Are cmovs ok?

yup

but I doubt you'd want to decode multiple groups in the same warp, I can't imagine that does anything good to your memory locality, and GPUs *really* don't like problems there

Yeah makes sense. Just like you don't want to simdify stuff across groups.

For anything where we currently use simd, I suppose warp parallelism would work. If you have 32 threads per warp that can work on floats that would be something like "avx1024", right?

But yes, the entropy decode itself including the main modular decode loop are quite inherently sequential so that would be the bottleneck

I suppose in principle modular could be decoded multiple channels at the same time if you get the bitstream offsets where to start reading for each channel. At least for Huffman that could work. For ANS too I guess, if you also signal the initial states.

(assuming you don't use prevchannel in the MA tree)

You could also do some local squeeze steps to bump up the number of channels, e.g. turning 3x256x256 into 24x256x32, so you get 24 channels in every group and work on them in parallel. Some header extension can signal the extra bitstream offsets you'd need (you need 24 offsets per group instead of just one).

yup

it *might* be fast enough, tbh

GPUs are pretty fast nowadays

(without significant modifications, I mean)

and if you want to decode a video, well... that's pretty much infinite parallelism opportunities as long as you have the vram

(~1mb per group or so is probably enough?)

Is fse a yann collet thing or a jarek duda thing?

Or a both thing

Similar for multi-frame, assuming they don't reference each other. Hydrium encoded files and smaller (GIF) animations would be sped up massively

even if they do reference each other, they can still be entropy decoded in parallel

Could spike memory/VRAM usage though if you end up decoding a dozen 4K frames in parallel and only composite them after

Then again, that (should) happen with individual groups anyway (Still strange memory usage doesn't change between 1 thread and 16...)

Bretthorst, 1988

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSUlbcpZJmA

damn, what a crap Linux desktop is, it's scary to believe that people are uses it because they are in a country where they can't steal Windows <:PepeSad:815718285877444619> I've been working in linux terminal since 2016, and it's not a bad thing. but as a basic PC OS. ah. no. This is hell. it's really been 3 weeks on Linux and I realized that in most cases I have to adjust to the system. refusing to good things. which were not even copied from Windows. but I want to say this: if all you need is to sit in the browser and play games. surprisingly, this is the only thing he does perfectly. And well, steamOS chose the right way <:Stonks:806137886726553651>

Linux doesn't make me want to end myself

> I have to adjust to the system. Yeah; And Widows forces Edge and telemetry on to you (or me) c'x And, you can *theoretically* adjust the *system* on Linux, it won't resist, nor try to re-install Edge.

Sorry but Linux absolutely sucks and is a mediocre embarrassment. ... at least it's not windows though

Still more usable than windows

At least the linux people are actually TRYING their best. Their best just happens to be utter cringe and terrible

android [av1_chad](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/862625638238257183.webp?size=48&name=av1_chad)

I don't have an edge. it was cut out, amputated, as were other Microsoft applications<:Windows:806135372298977342> 🍽️

The official site of Nintendo Switch 2 gives me AVIF on Safari

that makes sense

AVIF via Cloudinary, but Nintendo itself would give WebP

we still have a lot of customers who don't have jxl activated yet, probably nintendo is one of them

This is where we are at currently

we got to around 1 billion jxl images served per day around the last Black Friday peak, currently fluctuating around 400 million jxl images served per day

Why isn’t it activated by default? Risk of instability / unreliable quality?

How about AVIF and WebP?

Cloudflare also does this, they get a feature that would be great for users and then to turn it on websites need to dig into a menu somewhere to flip the switch

It's annoying, but there's probably a good reason

One billion looks huge but I wonder if the two others have much more

30% of requests coming from browsers that accept jxl honestly isn't bad, I'm pleasantly surprised. Sometimes I forget Safari supports it and that makes for a significant share

Maybe it’s a gradual rollout thing

75% is probably iOS, 20% macOS, 5% oddball browsers (Thorium, Waterfox, JXL chrome extension, etc…)

be a part of the movement, serve jxl files to chrome <:CatBlobPolice:805388337862279198>

Actually no, people would get mad at JXLs because they never work, just like WebP

WebP works well nowadays

Artists complain they can't open but their softwares have been supporting it

Yeah, but it got a lot of backlash because Google served them in google images and people then wanted to use them in software that didn't support it yet. It's kind of a good thing that we are seeing quite a lot of effort in getting JXL supported by lots of software *before* the format becomes a mainstream thing people deal with. That way when they inevitably start seeing JXL files, they are less likely to be met with software that still doesn't support it

The promotion of JXL isn't that aggressive

Google pushed too hard for a format with so many limits

Yup. Chrome procrastinating gives other software plenty of time to catch up before the internet will inevitably be full of JXL files that people will want to use in said other software

The aggressive approach got smashed by Chrome's rival

I think it would still have been a better thing if Chrome supported JXL early on, as it would only accelerate the adoption by other software, but that people aren't yet frustrated by an influx of files they can't use in a lot of other software is an upside in the whole situation

Took so long to make more mainstream softwares support WebP https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebP#Graphics_software

> The market share of non-Safari browsers with jxl support is very tiny. I can see some Thorium, Waterfox, Pale Moon etc but the numbers are in the 0.00something percents.

Time to spam Cloudinary with a bunch of JXL requests from Thorium user agent

To be honest: currently it only gets enabled on new customers or existing ones that switch to our new pricing model that is impression-based instead of bandwidth-based.

Basically in our old pricing model, if we do our job and compress well, we shoot ourselves in the foot since our revenue will drop, since we effectively charge for bandwidth consumption.

The new pricing model fixes that, so incentives are better aligned.

But we cannot just instantly move every customer to the new pricing model, existing contracts have to be respected and for the bigger ones those can be multi-year contracts.

TL;DR: the reason jxl is not yet fully rolled out is that it compresses too good

So it’s enabled for *everyone* on the new pricing model?

a single 300kb webp image would consume the same storage and bandwidth as a 300kb jxl and not hurt legacy billing format priority is much more important though. if jxls exist, they should be served at higher priority to apps that can consume them (ie jxl>aivif>webp>png/jpg). odd that jxl-enabled apps arent served jxls we know exist and would want served in priority

So instead of shrinking size you suggest increasing quality?

That would be the most consumer friendly approach, but in our corpocracy it's profits & shareholder value above all.

So bitrates will go as low as possible (usually)

Extra Larger

https://www.threads.net/@staatues/post/DE5TfKXsbdi

So good rendering doesn't want tropics...?

I remember seeing this and thinking, I really respect the effort those people put in to make those poles stand *perfectly* straight. If there was a small margin no one would notice, except during that moment

Original

mp3

default opus

opus tweaked

Referencing this blog post https://discord.com/channels/794206087879852103/805176455658733570/1222254198842724444

https://tenor.com/view/akira-leave-me-alone-leave-me-alone-meme-gif-6420351794930725971

what is the tweak in question?

Libopus version 1.1 with complexity level 8 or 5 instead of 10. <:Opus:805856410235437068>

interesting

I recall 1.1 didn't perform as much band folding at lower bitrates as more recent versions

feels (sounds) like band folding is making the triangle sound even rougher due to incorrect high frequencies

garbage base freqs, garbage folded freqs

ultimately, opus will always suck at highly-tonal sounds relative to other regular delay audio codecs due to its low delay nature

unless AI saves the day

Honestly, I'm surprised opus is as good as it is

Considering its a low delay codec

This seems like an interesting avenue to research for potential improvements without AI

could an Opus encoder that is tuned to not be low-delay work?

as in it is allowed to look-ahead?

Opus Custom is a thing: https://opus-codec.org/docs/opus_api-1.5/group__opus__custom.html

that way you can use larger frame sizes

but you'll essentially be killing compatibility with Opus players

yeah, and because it's low delay it's pretty much to immune to pre-echo artifacts and great at encoding transients

no as in an encoder that is tuned for non-realtime encoding

not opus custom

not really, the main issue is poor frequency resolution due to small frame sizes

so not an encoder tuning issue?

can't work that around without further filtering/processing

nope, you can make it a bit better (e.g. that 1.1 clip), but not that much so

the usual workaround is to boost bitrate on highly tonal samples

to counteract poor performance

I wonder if the opus team is working on extending their ML speech model to handle music as well

this sample should sound much better with a basic model that recognizes that the clip is playing a triangle, and it smooths out the wobbliness

<@167023260574154752> What's your favorite pen? 🙂

I have three preppys!

... I don't own any other pens

Nice <:PepeOK:805388754545934396>

I even modded them to have an increased ink flow.

Basically, I've been trying to find a 0.5mm pen that doesn't skip on paper. I could always get Energel 0.7mm, but I want a small tip size because small tips make writing small characters so much easier.

I could get Uni Jetstream, but I've been looking at an alternative.

preppys are cheap as dirt, buy 10 of em

and they don't tend to skip

Ho oh, I've never tried fountain pens before 😂

You probably want a gel pen then, yes. Uni-Ball is good, especially the Uni-Ball Signo DX (UM-151) (0.38mm) have a great reputation. Generally the Signo line.

I've been loyal to my Pilot G-2 for years now. Reliable, cheap, and comfortable.

I haven't encountered skipping yet, but maybe it's the paper more than the pen.

Also I consider 0.5mm the "normal" size lol, for me 0.38mm is thin and 0.7mm and up are thick

My red preppy is 0.2mm

ugh https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/20/trump-elon-musk-salute

I'm flattered : P

As I was watching the inauguration, at one point I thought to myself "I wonder how many actual neonazis there are in this room" and now I know it's at least one...

I'm concerned what effects I will see as a European, I can't imagine how some US citizens must be feeling, especially queer and other minority folks

Pilot has an excellent reputation.

Paper also matters, though, especially with small ball points.

That's very small Not quite comparable, though, because here it is line thickness, while for ballpoint pens and gel pens it's the ball diameter, with the actual line being quite a bit thinner.

Ah, but Platinum pens are known for producing lines that are much thinner than other brands for the same mm value!

Though when I hacked them to increase ink flow, I screwed up and overdid it, so the lines are thicker now. Though if I flip them over and write on the back side of the head, the lines are still very thin.

I kind of miss writing with a fountain pen...

I also have a Uni Kuru Toga Advance Upgrade mechanical pencil, that auto-rotates the lead every time you lift the lead from the paper.

I’ve never found them appealing or attractive, but maybe I just haven’t tried the right ones

from top to bottom: * my 0.2mm right side down * my 0.5mm mechanical * my 0.2mm reversed

I like how smoothly they flow over the paper.

I don’t remember them doing that, so maybe that’s what was wrong

||Heil||

Does Trump support AVIF or JPEG XL?

he would probably be a both kinda guy

this is a wild take. I hope these guys never watch sports. they would have a heart attack lol

I mean, Musk does have a history of antisemitic discourse, and it was at the inauguration of a nationalistic authoritarian president

it doesn't seem that far-fetched

ehhh? My view is the exact opposite of him, he is a staunch supporter of Israel. He historically has shared commentary that is critical of the greater "jewish communities" to which many of the same comments have been shared by some of said community. but as a greater whole, elon is not really anti semetic, and he is for sure pro zionist to the point where he has been accused of being a "zionist appologist" many times. which is it's own bag of worms but not really related. but in terms of the gesture itself, elon was elated, it is a fairly typical style of gesture to "bring your arms to your chest, then explode out" and as he said explicitly said afterwards "My heart goes out to you" which quite literally is the perfect interpetation of what he did. we can even go further assuming that it was intended to be a nazi salute, this salute was such a horrible salute, that any real nazi would be extremely mad with it. The nazi salute is a very specific thing, and with elon's.... lets say mental faculties and propensity to be extremely focused on some things, the chances that he did have a nazi inclination and performed a salute, the salute would be perfect and not... this. A salute on this level would even get us kicked to the american side during the war enactments we used to do let alone actually fly with nazi's lol.

https://web.archive.org/web/20230516161745/https://twitter.com/SethCotlar/status/1658329345042309120 https://x.com/thor_benson/status/1658308727626248193 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1724908287471272299

the comment on soros is just that, a comment on soros. applying it to anti semitism seems like a strech, and as for the comment that elon replies to from this breakingbaht fella is the same view that many american jewish hold, and try to discredit the views of people who share their sentiment. it's worth noting that konstantin kisin *who is also jewish* replied to elon musk properly expanding on this, blaming the ADL, but specifically talks about, and I quote " spent several chapters of my book arguing against identity politics and have always said that attacks on "whiteness" are not only wrong in and of themselves but will logically move on to other "privileged" groups." this is not anti antisemitism perhaps some by omission, but certainly not intentional. but this is an issue that is happening where "predominate" jewish communities give the greater jewish people a bad look.

as an anecdote, we have experienced much of the same phenomena here in Canada, but it does apply much to many parts of america too, where... certain groups lets call them, will take a call to action, pretending to act on behalf of people who disagree with their stand point, giving them a bad reputation, and such things are very hard to fight against as a person they are pretending to represent.

the Soros comment would have been more credible as such if it had been some specific criticism and not just some vague “Soros hates humanity” that is more reminiscent of the far-right conspiracy theories that abound about him

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros_conspiracy_theories “Professor Armin Langer has noted that Soros is "the perfect code word" for conspiracy theories that unite antisemitism and Islamophobia.[5]”)

I would not consider soros hating humanity to be a far right thing. This is something that is better across all the political spectrum. In fact, here in Canada, it's much more common to come out of the left leaning types than it is the right leaning type.

Lots of people do indeed not liking because he's Jewish but a lot of people also don't like him because he's rich and stuff.

I do personally disagree with both points, but it's not really a right or left thing to be hating on George Soros.

there is a good quote from an article I rather disagree with, but a good quote none the less > Finkelstein realised the best way to get Orban elected was to find a new enemy. He suggested Soros, and it was a perfect choice, Grassegger says. "The very right hated him because he was Jewish, people at the very left hated him because he was a capitalist." > > The irony is, Arthur Finkelstein was himself a Jew. "This Jewish gentleman creates this Jewish monster," Grassegger says.

> "The very right hated him because he was Jewish, people at the very left hated him because he was a capitalist." so which one is it for Musk?

White supremacism, nazism, and support for the current Israeli regime are not necessarily contradictory positions. The Nazis were quite in favor of the creation of a Jewish state (anything to get Jews out of their own countries); in the US there's an important section of evangelicals who are "Christian Zionists" and combine conservative (and often racist) viewpoints with support for the Israeli state. Also, to a large extent, the positions of Likud (Netanyahu's party) and certainly those of the far-right parties in Netanyahu's coalition, certainly have racist and fascist elements.

as for the musk situation itself, I really like this article https://www.jta.org/2025/01/20/united-states/elon-musks-straight-armed-gesture-at-inauguration-event-ignites-comparisons-to-nazi-salute which I think accurately describes the situation, whether or not people consider this to be some racist remark more or less stands on where you lean on the political spectrum, or where you sit on personal like / dislike of elon, with the right leaning/pro trump jewish folk stating so much as "elon is a friend to the jewish..."

that is a fair point, though IMO seems fairly unlikely to apply to elon, especially in the modern state of the world, folks who lean like this are more likely to be "pro palestine" then they are to be "pro israel"

well in the end, people will take it however they wish, which is also accurately summed up in the article, which I think is a hilarious if not foreboding take > “Man it’s not even 5pm on Inauguration Day and we already have a Schroedingers Nazi salute,” Ungar-Sargon wrote . “Gonna be a long four years…”

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/elon-musk-alternative-for-germany-election-far-right-nazi-past-rcna185018

is there a source they credit here of his support? I can't seem to find it, and can't really let this influence me with out it since context matters a lot

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1877435764520239454

ugh I hate random posts, now I have to find the context of what these people are specifically referring to. Maybe this is tommorow me issue.

I believe one of his salutes was towards the American flag. I think that rules out it was a "from the heart" gesture, you don't make random gestures to a flag, you salute a flag. I think Musk definitely has fascist tendencies but I think he just crawls up to whatever he thinks will get people to validate him. He seems to have found an ideology shared by many particularly outspoken people on his platform and living it gets him gets him the validation he craves. We're all susceptible to groupthink but Musk appears to be to an extent I've never seen in anyone this prominent

well this is a peculiar... paper? https://scholarship.claremont.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1187&context=urceu considering that this was immediately pushed to me instead of literally anything else, Im not sure what exactly is bad about the afd, but from a quick google search, which tbf is all elon ever seems to do, they don't seem that bad.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1877497546786140596?t=WL_ylycgjILwy0iptzNBiA&s=19

he was for sure doing it to the people, he did it in three directions total, and seemed quite evident to me it was "to the people" as he stated afterwards

now, I don't like elon, he makes cool stuff, but otherwise he is pretty dumb, I wouldn't be surprised if this afd stuff is more of him just being a bit of a... smooth brain man and not doing his diligence

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_for_Germany

He did it once towards where the camera and audience are, once to his left, and once with his back turned to the camera, I heard that that last one was to the American flag but I wasn't able to see that from the clip itself

you can see from the wide angle shots that this isn't the case

Ahh okay

if you watch the first part of the video it gives a decent view of "behind" https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/9.6618544

unfortunately people don't really care for wikipedia in political circles here. it has gotten a pretty bad reputation so it's one of the first things to be ignored

I do think this is likely just a case of elon being really dumb and not researching before he posts stuff... he does that a LOT.

I don't think Musk is just supporting AfD because of ignorance about what they stand for, but he actually agrees with their general positions. He may say a lot of dumb stuff but he is not dumb.

Sometimes I check what Conservapedia has to say about things to have a laugh

Have you seen his posts on the fires? Elon Musk has a form of autism, which makes you very specific on a few things and on other things just completely out of the window. My nephew is like this too. When it's stuff they care for, they are incredibly smart. But on some things, they just don't get it, especially on things that they don't really care about. I use the fires as a good post because I believe the tweets are now deleted, which is a shame because I couldn't archive them. I can't find them anymore. But he was completely wrong on what was happening with the wildfires to the point where when he was corrected live, he just completely stopped talking and acknowledging these points at all.

He is a bright man, but only on very specific things. On other things he is just... gone.

Agreed. The unfortunate thing is that he is starting to play an influential role not just regarding the things he is good at.

There is a black pole there, the camera doesn't zoom out enough for me to see what's on it though

It's hard to find footage that shows it

And I do agree with that. I think that anyone who is a celebrity should not have their opinions be taken seriously on merit of them being a celebrity and only on things where they are actually in authority at. Like I said, I personally don't like Elon at all. I find him incredibly hard to listen to, incredibly boring in most of the things he says, and I disagree with him on really most things that aren't his strong suits. That being said, I really don't think this is coming from a place of racism either. I just think that this is just an unlucky coincidence. One we see in sports a lot when people are elated. There is a saying that I do typically disagree with, but I do think this version of Hanlon's Razor really does apply here though. I think it's just a lot easier to attribute it to incompetence than it is to malice.

There were a couple drone shots, and I would love to continue to try and find them, but it turns out it's 4am in Ontario now, and I didn't think it was, I thought it was 2am lol.

Hah, fair enough

If he did it towards a flag it would probably have been mentioned more prominently so I'll trust you on this

His intentions are pretty clear to me personally, so it's not that important to me to know anyway

I guess the best way to formulate my thoughts on the matter would be like this. You could attribute some of what he does to anti-Semitism, but then other stuff doesn't really make sense. However, if you attribute it all to him just being a special child, then it all makes sense to me.

they’re not necessarily at odds, if he does the antisemitic stuff through parroting

as far as razors are concerned, the Soros comment is also easier to attribute to such parroting than to an original, in-depth analysis

I'm just glad my autism lead me on the "jpeg xl, rust, carnivorous plants, photography" path instead of the "fascism is good actually" path <:KekDog:805390049033191445>

I just like watching the bpp go down

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But the left also has tons of anti-Semitism so that doesn't exactly disprove the point

He's been supporting Nazis in random Twitter posts for many years, but incompetent journalists don't report on it so it's hard to know about unless you're already in the know.

They are literal actual fucking Nazis, Christ.

Hello. Autistic person here. Please don't use autism to excuse someone's horrible behavior. Also, he wasn't at all like this 10 years ago. Also also, there is literally no topic on which Musk is competent.

← another non-nazi autist

When he took over Twitter, he unbanned thousands of Nazis.

Preaching free speech on twitter and banning his critics, blocking "slurs" for cisgender people while allowing unhinged transphobia

He's a joke

Unrelated, it's not often I have 5 mutual servers with someone who I don't already know

I checked the profiles of some other people here, interestingly Rust seems to be a somewhat common interest here based on my mutual servers with them

I wonder if it's because both JXL and Rust fill in the "we can have nice things" in their respective uses, compared to their alternatives

They are probably both commonly seen as better options to other much more widespread and lacking alternatives, by their respective user bases

I don't have an explanation for there being more furries here than you would expect on average despite also contributing to this statistic myself

actually, even as far as the execution is concerned, it seems pretty faithful https://www.reddit.com/r/gifs/comments/1i6hfrv/its_the_i_bought_the_presidency_for_300_million/

oops, removed

here it was

I just realized that all this attention this specific case of a nazi salute is getting probably means that if you search for "nazi salute" in the future, elon musk is going to be near the top of the image search results

No way, I think this literally just happened. I guess Bing updates their image dataset in one go or something?

two minutes ago vs now

I witnessed this in real time, amazing

Oh jesus, that face is uh... Certainly expressing some kind of emotion and I don't think it's good

Yeah that's not the expression that would accompany a "my heart goes out to you" gesture

the audible grunt he made at the same time also wasn’t encouraging

do you have any actual proof of him supporting Nazi ideology ?

he also unbanned communists, libertarians and many more political ideologies

I never did?

Many contemporary fascists are not pushing anti-Semitic viewpoints, e.g. here in Belgium they talk a lot about "our European Judeo-Christian values" lately, which is basically just a euphemism/dog whistle for a mix of islamophobia, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, racism, ethical conservatism and economic right-wing positions.

at some point there's enough information where after connecting the dots I no longer give them the benefit of the doubt if they do a nazi salute twice during the after-party of the inauguration of the president of the united states

Yeah, we don't really see that too much here anymore with in terms of the religious stuff, we do see it a bit but its not so common. some people do, but most of the far leaning politically held values are more around the real neo nazis that hold the beliefs of a mono-ethnic state, <insert race> supremacy so on and so forth. or on the opposite side or the spectrum around allowing the indoctrination of children into holding specific political or in general ideological view points.

I wish there was a real town for this, but currently the most discrimination you see is around country of origin rather than race or sex or whatever.

We are certainly seeing some in terms of religious origin. It's really hard to separate some races from religion for a lot of people. Which I think is where a lot of the media stuff comes from. But just going around you quickly learned that it's definitely a lot more about the religion of some groups rather than the race of them.

That being said, these people aren't usually the brightest anyway, so expecting them to split the two... yeah...

I already responded to this here https://discord.com/channels/794206087879852103/806898911091753051/1331177395784388671

but the tldr is that this is a problem some specifc jewish communities are doing, and other jewish communities/groups have acknowledged this as a genuine problem

that being said, related to this, I don't believe the hatred is actually comming largely from these groups, but rather people pretending to be them, but thats a can of worms i can't prove, just a hypothesis I choose to believe in

https://github.com/swaywm/sway/pull/7976 this may seem minor, but this is a rather big step for wayland. We finally have a wayland compositor that supports a wayland protocol for capture! So nice to see.

https://discord.com/channels/794206087879852103/805176455658733570/1331362144255475732 Worse, it's 3 generated frames

this is abysmal if they used this for benchmarks

Cool, so the GPU is gonna play the game for me

I dont actually mind dlss existence, I think its cool tech, but they way it gets abused is absurd

Imagine playing CSGO and you think you see someone peeking a corner but it's just the AI hallucinating it lmao

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> multiply frame rates by up to 8X over traditional brute-force rendering.

gotta love the term "brute-force rendering"

That's one cool thing, they implemented something my friend came up with years ago

https://youtu.be/zpDxo2m6Sko?t=132

https://youtu.be/VvFyOFacljg

imagine someone prefires you because their game halucinated you BRUH

Did you guys see that AI minecraft that is fully based on video generation, including the game logic, and has like no object permanence

Of course

That's what the GTX 6060 is gonna be like

6090

yeah it was weird, kinda neat tho

i tried really hard to get a creeper but it was impossible

It's good at rendering at least https://opendata.blender.org/

This reminds me of something, at one point I was wondering if what the original AMD FSR does (the one that just takes individual frames and upsamples them) would be a good predictor for an image format. Store the downsampled original and the residuals of the FSR operation

It's pretty basic, like some sort of custom interpolation with a sharpening pass iirc, so probably not

But ever since getting obsessed with image formats these are the thoughts that haunt my dreams

lol

A 2070 is 4x faster than mine... RT cores go hard

I think it's one of those ideas that sound great, you spend all day doing it, and then it's 10x worse than just a PNG

that's literally been all my image related ideas so far

I wish rt cores on amd was more generally useful

I mean, the Minecraft one was hitting 95%+ prediction wasn't it?

Yes but it got worse than the original when Huffman coded

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To be fair I haven't done any of the predictor selection or context modeling I was planning on doing yet, and I'm confident it would work out in the end, especially after replacing Huffman with ANS

But I'm not currently motivated by that, instead I'm in the process of defying the gods by creating a lossy encoder for the lossless QOI format

when it comes to the tech that powers image stuff, its all beyond me lol, I get the basic principles of stuff, but when it comesto adding it together to make something useful? right ot the window for me

I also need to make you download this and take some Space Engine photos https://sourceforge.net/projects/qtpfsgui/

Should be simple, just set the exposure to minimum and go up 1 at a time until you hit the max

I'll see if the current Space Engine build works on the Steam Deck, it's been hit or miss

Does that software just, do everything we need to make these images? Looks very promising

It's up to 16 bit, but that'll be fine for starters

Oh is it? I checked the source and it cited 32-bit EXR output

the summary and features list says "up to 16 bits per channel"

hang on i'm installing it

which jewish communities are doing what, exactly?

i'm gonna get the camera and try it with three exposure bracketed shots, this is exciting

it's a wide variety of things, but even in the twitter thread alone if click the reply "Dude. What are you talking about. What Jewish people are pushing hate towards whites." that has started a thread that has a lot of legitmate hatred comming from "prominent leaders" in the jewish community. and a lot comes from the ADL specifically which is likely one of the most prominent jewish organizations in USA/Canada. I am not going to post the thread since there is a LOT of anti-semitism there. But a lot of the stuff they are replying with is indeed what again quotations "prominent jewish leaders" have said. I do put it in quotes because I don't believe them to be prominent leaders, only public and loud ones

what a load of nonsense honestly

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I am not sure what you are referring to

everything you wrote

and this is why antisemitism is increasing...

now this is how things should be

is there a CLI tool for this I wonder...

Québec >>>>>>>>>>>>>> France

bro is going to start a war

massively? probably not

Thats what nvidia anti-lag is for lol

Was it called reflex? Can't remember

Why would it be nvidia specific though... nothing about the theory of how it works requires vendor specific hardware

It should be an open source library like latencyflex or maybe vulkan extensions that any driver can choose to implement... if it's even needed at the driver level, which it probably isn't.

It's nice that nvidia popularizes the idea of measuring and reducing input latency but they always offer the crappiest possible solution, all the time depending on their crappy library and vendor locked even when there's no practical reason for it to be vendor locked.

Things that should be universal standards across the whole industry, like adaptive sync monitors, their solution is "force every device manufacturer to purchase our chip, so we exclusively set the price to whatever we want. Don't allow anyone else to make compatible products without our permission and license."

Someone even wrote an open source CUDA driver that runs on AMD GPU's and it got taken down because nvidia doesn't want CUDA to work across platforms even when there's no practical reason not to.

Do you mean zluda?

https://discord.com/channels/794206087879852103/806898911091753051/1331363248657797173

Reflex 2 now even, darn

yes

https://youtu.be/AB7pBrudFbg

funnier than I expected it to be

including the random Objective-C code at 1:17

https://x.com/flowersslop/status/1882241958397067677

Barely working brakes, the auto-acceleration bug and not being able to turn it off is exactly the kind of terrifying combination I'd expect from a product that looks like this

that's just a medium level difficulty ride :D

Relevant to the current times https://bsky.app/profile/drnaomibaker.bsky.social/post/3lgcxfkp3y22n

I found a website that uses Cloudinary https://www.mediacorp.sg/

sadly JXL support not enabled by default

`f_auto` goes to AVIF

use a redirector to force it to jxl [av1_chad](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/862625638238257183.webp?size=48&name=av1_chad)

Looking at the logs, some of the websites that use Cloudinary that are serving a lot of jxl images are: www.aritzia.com, www.aroma-zone.com, www.truereligion.com, www.timberland.com, www.thenorthface.com, www.asos.com, www.ohpolly.com, www.altrarunning.com, www.seasaltcornwall.com, www.megabad.com, www.furniturerow.com

if you're looking for some examples

I wonder what the "true religion" is

done <:pancakexl:1283670260209156128>

Apparently it's a new pair of jeans lol

You'll never guess what Sea Salt Cornwall is

https://hydrogenaud.io/index.php/topic,127294.msg1058330/topicseen.html#new https://blog.youtube/news-and-events/new-youtube-premium-features-2025/

Amazing, yet another previously available feature (256kbps audio) coming now back, but only for premium users

Also yay, playback speed is premium only lol

(yt-dlp + VLC go brrrr)

wasnt 256k audio always a premium feature?

I thought so

No, AAC 256kbit/s was youtube's default audio codec a few years ago. Then the switched to AAC 128kbit/s, then finally to OPUS 128kbit/s

still have some audio files from that time

when was this? I don't recall it ever being default 0.0

Let me check

Ok, I was wrong, it was *sometimes* 192kbit/s AAC, not 256, but that was at some point reduced to 128Kbit/s

Time range should be around 2014 and earlier

Pretty much all videos I've checked starting at around 2015 were 128kbit/s AAC or OPUS

In VRChat

i want this now, but it's US-only, sadge

I'm surprised it isn't common for cameras to be able to shoot in PNG

Your options are lossy image with styling, or lossless raw without any sort of corrections or styling. They don't cover the lossless image *with* styling use case

Maybe I'm severely overestimating how useful this would be for the typical users of the camera, I'm part of a probably small demographic that likes unedited photography and benchmarking image formats

The only option to shot PNG that I am aware of is OpenCamera for Android

Yeah I wonder why cameras prefer DNG over PNG

Because PNG isn't intended for raw sensor capture the way DNG is

The payload inside of a RAW file could possibly be PNG though

PNG would probably be worse than lossless JPEG for storing 12-14bit CFA planes at encode speeds convenient for a camera

but yeah, just a nice 16-bit PNG version (in some wide gamut HDR RGB space) of the camera-processed image would be nice

> Widely used in other image formats such as JPEG/JFIF, EXIF metadata is also available in PNG. PNG Third Edition moves the eXIf chunk, which was already in the PNG Extensions document, into the main specification.

And the support for EXIF is very late

That's another good point. JPEG classically only supporting 8-bit per channel means you get banding very easily

And no matter how high quality your JPEG is, the banding remains, or you have to rely on noise for 'dithering'

It blows my mind color banding is still a part of our lives in this day and age

I have to add tiny noises on the clothing that my avatar features to avoid banding

It's a forced workaround for compatibility

And even then, it's a quality 100 JPEG capture that's saved as PNG. You'd probably get more quality with the jpeg and djpegli

true

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmKQsSDlaa4

Now that's what I like to see

Since I got a fast lens I've been shooting at ISO 100 because it allows me to, but I didn't know if the increased shutter speed would itself introduce more noise. Looks like it doesn't

Or at least in this scene. I hope it applies in the general case too, this was a fairly dimly lit room

Apparent noise is only affected by Signal-to-Noise ratio, as long as the shutter speed isnt so low that incoming light is reduced it will not increase the noise

(As far as i know*)

You mean ISO won't increase the noise?

It will, since increasing ISO will decrease the signal, leading to more noise

Since you will need to compensate increased ISO by reducing the shutter speed or aperture the have the same light level

That's my understanding, but then I don't know what you're referring to with 'it' in > it will not increase the noise

OH the shutter speed

am dumb

noise in digital photos is read noise (sensu lato, including dark fixed pattern noise) + photon shot noise + thermal noise + photo response non-uniformity

you can pretty much ignore thermal noise for sub-second exposures

photon shot noise is the dominant source across most of the signal range (read noise becomes more important at very low levels, photo response non-uniformity at very high levels)

and its standard deviation is the square root of the expected number of photons

so, to a very rough first approximation, SNR is roughly the square root of the signal

increasing the ISO value usually correlates with an increase in analogue gain, and with it, a decrease in the contribution of read noise (which is why camera manufacturers make it increase the gain in the first place) but also a decrease in saturation capacity – roughly something like this (this is for a Canon 50D but the general principle applies):

for my understanding: levels of what?

light

more light = more signal, less noise

so, by increasing the ISO setting, you reduce the maximum achievable SNR (since you have to target a lower exposure or you’ll clip), but for any fixed exposure that doesn’t clip, you increase SNR (to an extent that depends on the camera)

and whether you achieve a given amount of light captured by shooting a 300 cd/m² source at f/4 and 1/100s, or a 300 cd/m² source at f/2 and 1/400s, or a 600 cd/m² source at f/2 and 1/800s, should make no difference to the SNR (except to the extent that the longer exposure causes more thermal noise, but it should usually be negligible)

Thermal noise only becomes problematic at shutter speeds at well above 30 seconds with the cameras I've used. Some may be more susceptible though

or in other words, the only way that a faster shutter speed would cause more noise is by reducing the amount of light captured – if you can increase it through other means (e.g. brighter lens) then the noise should not increase

(by the way, the source for this diagram is https://www.mdpi.com/2079-9292/8/11/1284, but I don’t remember the article being _that_ interesting or insightful other than that)