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Dacoar
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2023-04-18 02:42:10
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btw <@794205442175402004> are you able to tell me any curiosity of the process process or the format itself 😄 like that our professor told us we will get a 10 hahaha
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2023-04-18 02:44:01
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I mean a not well known fact, he said us that if we surprise him he will increase our mark
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MSLP
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2023-04-18 02:51:07
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I'm curious - did the professor choose a bunch of graphics formats and assigned different one to each group? FLIF itself is a rather niche format those days.
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Dacoar
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2023-04-18 02:55:32
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we had to choose from a wide variety of video/audio/ image formats and we decided to choose this one
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2023-04-18 02:56:08
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this was the list
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2023-04-18 02:56:11
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Apple Video, AV1, AVS, Bink, Cinepak, Daala, Dirac, DV, DVI, FFV1, Huffyuv, Indeo, Lagarith, Microsoft Video 1, MSU Lossless, OMS Video, Pixlet, ProRes 422, ProRes 4444, QuickTime (Animation, Graphics), RealVideo, RTVideo, SheerVideo, Smacker, Sorenson Video, Spark, Theora, Thor, VP3, VP6, VP7, VP8, VP9, WMV, XEB, YULS,
ACELP, AC-3, AC-4, ALAC, Asao, ATRAC, CELT, Codec2, DRA, DTS, FLAC, iSAC, Monkey's Audio, TTA (True Audio), MT9, Musepack, OptimFROG, OSQ, QCELP, RCELP, RealAudio, RTAudio, SD2, SHN, SILK, Siren, SMV, Speex, SVOPC, TwinVQ, VMR-WB, Vorbis, VSELP, WavPack, WMA, MQA, aptX
APNG, BPG, DjVu, EXR, FLIF, ICER, MNG, PGF, QTVR, WBMP, WebP
3GP and 3G2, AMV, ASF, AIFF, AVI, AU, BPG, Bink (Smacker), BMP, DivX Media Format, EVO, Flash Video, GXF, IFF, M2TS, Matroska (WebM), MXF, Ogg, QuickTime File Format, RatDVD, RealMedia, RIFF (WAV), MOD and TOD, VOB, IFO and BUP
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jonnyawsom3
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2023-04-18 02:57:05
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Lord help him when he has to mark all the obscure ones haha
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_wb_
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MSLP
I stumbled across the PDF from the trials for JPEG XL: https://infoscience.epfl.ch/record/270332
Btw, does someone know what were the five other proposals, besides selected PIK and FUIF?
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2023-04-18 02:57:57
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These were the 7 proposals:
- PIK
- FUIF
- AVIF (later retracted)
- TAT
- DIC
- XAVS2
- something I don't remember / cannot find the name of, based on lapped transforms
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Dacoar
btw <@794205442175402004> are you able to tell me any curiosity of the process process or the format itself 😄 like that our professor told us we will get a 10 hahaha
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2023-04-18 02:58:43
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about FLIF or about JXL?
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Dacoar
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2023-04-18 02:59:14
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FLIF please
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_wb_
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2023-04-18 02:59:37
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FLIF was originally called JPIF, for Jon & Pieter's Image Format, though Pieter insisted it should be called JIF to maximize confusion with GIF
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Dacoar
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2023-04-18 03:00:03
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wow thank you !
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2023-04-18 03:01:32
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it’s a shame that JXL wasn’t available to us for choose
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jonnyawsom3
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2023-04-18 03:07:40
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Could've gotten bonus points if he hadn't heard of it before ;P
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MSLP
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_wb_
These were the 7 proposals:
- PIK
- FUIF
- AVIF (later retracted)
- TAT
- DIC
- XAVS2
- something I don't remember / cannot find the name of, based on lapped transforms
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2023-04-18 03:09:12
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Thanks. Interesting to know AVIF was among the proposals.
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nec
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diskorduser
Is it yours?
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2023-04-18 03:44:24
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No. For me 6 cores is more or less enough. But I was thinking about some upgrade, because things like av1 are quite computation-heavy.
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Traneptora
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Dacoar
Apple Video, AV1, AVS, Bink, Cinepak, Daala, Dirac, DV, DVI, FFV1, Huffyuv, Indeo, Lagarith, Microsoft Video 1, MSU Lossless, OMS Video, Pixlet, ProRes 422, ProRes 4444, QuickTime (Animation, Graphics), RealVideo, RTVideo, SheerVideo, Smacker, Sorenson Video, Spark, Theora, Thor, VP3, VP6, VP7, VP8, VP9, WMV, XEB, YULS,
ACELP, AC-3, AC-4, ALAC, Asao, ATRAC, CELT, Codec2, DRA, DTS, FLAC, iSAC, Monkey's Audio, TTA (True Audio), MT9, Musepack, OptimFROG, OSQ, QCELP, RCELP, RealAudio, RTAudio, SD2, SHN, SILK, Siren, SMV, Speex, SVOPC, TwinVQ, VMR-WB, Vorbis, VSELP, WavPack, WMA, MQA, aptX
APNG, BPG, DjVu, EXR, FLIF, ICER, MNG, PGF, QTVR, WBMP, WebP
3GP and 3G2, AMV, ASF, AIFF, AVI, AU, BPG, Bink (Smacker), BMP, DivX Media Format, EVO, Flash Video, GXF, IFF, M2TS, Matroska (WebM), MXF, Ogg, QuickTime File Format, RatDVD, RealMedia, RIFF (WAV), MOD and TOD, VOB, IFO and BUP
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2023-04-18 05:03:41
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I find this list a little odd, since many of these are very well documented by international sttandard, some are obscure manufacturer-related, some are containers, and some are codecs, some for image, some for video, some for audio
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2023-04-18 05:03:52
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there's a lot of choice here, so you could probably have asked about JXL
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2023-04-18 05:04:52
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for example, 3GP and 3G2 are just variants on ISOBMFF, which itself is derived from MOV
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2023-04-18 05:05:02
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but there's really not much to talk about ISOBMFF
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2023-04-18 05:05:07
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beyond the box structure and required boxes
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Dacoar
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2023-04-18 06:17:00
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yeah i think it was on purpose to make us investigate on what to choose
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gb82
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nec
For modern encoders this should be enough.
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2023-04-19 08:31:27
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Oh my god its such a big die
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zamfofex
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2023-04-19 03:38:16
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So, I’ve been feeling discontent with the performance of my chess bot’s library API, so I decided to investigate improving it.
As of now, I keep two chess implementations on the bot’s repository, one that is nice to use, for the library API, and one that is fast, to use during evaluation search.
I came up with a different implementation that is faster than the current one. As a bonus, it allows two forms of usage: an immutable API and a mutable API.
I have decided to benchmark it, and these are the results I came up with:
```
12002.8765ms / 4894325 = 0.0025ms (deepen)
12258.6647ms / 4894325 = 0.0025ms (getMoves)
14885.8047ms / 120909581 = 0.0001ms (fast-chess.js)
2738.1347ms / 197742 = 0.0138ms (standard)
18466.8493ms / 197281 = 0.0936ms (old)
```
- The first value is the time it took to complete the benchmark for the given implementation.
- The second value is the number of positions traversed.
- The third value is the average time per position.
- Each implementation has special moves (castling & e.p.) disabled.
- In each implementation, the king can be put into check and even be captured.
The meanings of the names in those benchmarks are as follows:
- “deepen” and “`getMoves`” are names of slightly different usages of the new mutable API.
- “`fast-chess.js`” is the name of the existing mutable implementation used during search.
- “standard” is the name of the new immutable API.
- “old” is the name of the existing mutable API (exposed for the library).
Now, the new API is faster than the existing API, which is fantastic! Though it doesn’t seem to be able to beat the existing `fast-chess.js` implementation at all! (Even though it is based on it.)
This is good overall, because in addition to this “no special moves, kings can be captured” variant, the new API also implements standard chess, and also allows me to encode more variants, which was one of the goals I had established when working on it.
The fact it is faster than the current API implementation means I can replace it with this new one without a performance penalty. (Those who saw my last message about adding variant support to my bot’s library will remember it was very slow, and also very complicated, which this new implementation solves completely.)
Now, this is not the most ideal, because I was hoping to also replace the `fast-chess.js` implementation with this new one (i.e. unify the implementations altogether), and I can’t seem to be able to currently, unfortunately.
So yeah, I’m not sure whether I should feel happy or disappointed by these conclusions. 🤔
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diskorduser
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2023-04-20 12:07:36
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https://twitter.com/UniverseIce/status/1648619132760256512?t=9IeSBpoYOX0m7ZZmq6UPJw&s=19
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BlueSwordM
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_wb_
For some reason, the Chrome team only seems to communicate around jxl on Fridays. Could be there's some reason for that, like maybe they have a team meeting then or something, no idea. But it does seem to be quite consistently that if they communicate on jxl, it's on a Friday.
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2023-04-20 03:56:39
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This is done on purpose.
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gb82
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diskorduser
https://twitter.com/UniverseIce/status/1648619132760256512?t=9IeSBpoYOX0m7ZZmq6UPJw&s=19
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2023-04-21 12:05:12
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Wow, good on them
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elfeïn
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diskorduser
https://twitter.com/UniverseIce/status/1648619132760256512?t=9IeSBpoYOX0m7ZZmq6UPJw&s=19
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2023-04-21 12:35:49
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Is this a comparison between two terrible cameras or a good one and a bad one?
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gb82
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2023-04-21 02:25:54
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Two smartphone cameras, likely using very similar sensors
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2023-04-21 02:26:55
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smartphone photography is very much always a battle between two evils, with a decision on what's "better" being made depending on which is the lesser
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diskorduser
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2023-04-21 02:41:50
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I have a battery which works opposite 🤔
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elfeïn
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gb82
smartphone photography is very much always a battle between two evils, with a decision on what's "better" being made depending on which is the lesser
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2023-04-21 03:14:09
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The undersharpened one is nice in its own right, but not great in general. The oversharpened one is garbage tho.
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diskorduser
I have a battery which works opposite 🤔
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2023-04-21 03:14:41
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Lawsuit!
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diskorduser
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elfeïn
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2023-04-21 03:20:59
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How does it feel?
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2023-04-21 03:21:25
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Does gamma basically change the range?
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diskorduser
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2023-04-21 03:24:25
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I don't notice anything
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elfeïn
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diskorduser
I don't notice anything
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2023-04-21 03:25:01
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Nice
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diskorduser
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diskorduser
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2023-04-21 03:27:42
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But this isn't a laptop. It's an all in on pc from Lenovo. It doesn't run on batteries.
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2023-04-21 04:39:48
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No
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gb82
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elfeïn
The undersharpened one is nice in its own right, but not great in general. The oversharpened one is garbage tho.
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2023-04-21 05:45:42
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Exactly
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jonnyawsom3
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2023-04-21 06:27:02
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"hey, we can make your porn more efficient rather than just deleting it all"
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Jim
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2023-04-21 10:46:13
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Problem is, bandwidth is also a concern along with storage. They wouldn't be able to serve jxls since most browsers don't support it.
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MSLP
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Jim
Problem is, bandwidth is also a concern along with storage. They wouldn't be able to serve jxls since most browsers don't support it.
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2023-04-21 01:49:42
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sound like an expensive plan to push forward jxl adoption - create jxl-only imgur archive, some ppl would install jxl extension for this 🤪
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Jim
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2023-04-21 01:53:44
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But most would probably just stop visiting or using their site.
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username
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2023-04-21 01:54:12
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I mean it doesn't sound like the worst idea ever since the images that imgur is removing are images that not many people access and also imgur wants to get rid of them for saving space
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w
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2023-04-21 01:58:53
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the problem isnt bandwidth or storage
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2023-04-21 01:59:18
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it's just investors
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2023-04-21 02:00:28
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so much of the traffic is for reddit and more people will simply not use it since they cant
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skalt711#4276
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2023-04-21 06:41:00
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Why PDF readera are still rendered in software?
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_wb_
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2023-04-21 07:14:48
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Does any hardware pdf renderer exist? That would be extremely surprising to me...
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MSLP
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_wb_
Does any hardware pdf renderer exist? That would be extremely surprising to me...
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2023-04-21 07:28:39
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That's a philosophical question about a nature of printers 🙃
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_wb_
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2023-04-21 07:31:46
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I would assume printers use some internal cpu to rasterize stuff, if it isn't done by the printer driver already
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2023-04-21 07:33:10
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Ancient printers probably handled postscript commands by actually doing in hardware what the commands say, but I don't think anyone would still dare to do such a thing nowadays
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Demez
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2023-04-21 07:35:56
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you know what i dislike about printers, or at least the one i have? it scans papers to jpeg, but no software i have seems to be able to get the original jpeg from the printer, so i either have generation loss if i save it as a jpeg again seemingly, or i save it as a bigger png
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2023-04-21 07:38:01
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however i recently noticed that even with the extra jpeg generation loss, jpeg quantsmooth can still restore it pretty decently, which i wish i found out before i scanned a ton of my old drawings to png and converted them to webp (which im considering converting all to lossy jxl)
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_wb_
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2023-04-21 07:38:50
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Are you sure it scans to jpeg? Is that what goes through the wire, or is it what the printer driver produces or the scan app?
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Demez
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2023-04-21 07:39:39
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i have tried about 3 different apps and it all looks the same with the jpeg artifacts
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2023-04-21 07:39:54
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normal windows fax and scan, NAPS2, and VueScan
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2023-04-21 07:41:03
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this is what every scanner app gives me
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2023-04-21 07:41:22
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and this is what i can get from jpeg quantsmooth, so it's a little better
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2023-04-21 07:41:32
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also it's a wireless printer
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username
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Demez
normal windows fax and scan, NAPS2, and VueScan
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2023-04-21 07:48:21
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you also tried the manufacturer provided program as well from what I remember
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2023-04-21 07:48:40
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which also resulted in either the same or a worse result
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Demez
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2023-04-21 07:48:54
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that didn't even listen to DPI resolution changes lol
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username
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2023-04-21 07:50:05
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I tried to find out if the JPEGs that programs where giving you where native or not but i'm not enough of an expert to say whether or not they have generation loss
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Demez
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Demez
and this is what i can get from jpeg quantsmooth, so it's a little better
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2023-04-21 07:51:17
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there is some slight artifacts around the pencil however still
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username
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2023-04-21 07:51:48
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I think what programs are giving you might be native JPEGs
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Demez
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2023-04-21 07:51:57
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its a 600 DPI scan, and a little more noticeable in 1200 DPI
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username
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2023-04-21 07:52:03
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they are just forced 4:2:0 as that's what the printer probably natively outputs
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Demez
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2023-04-21 07:52:17
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I would hope at least
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username
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2023-04-21 08:00:22
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either way it seems like either there was no generation loss or the generation loss only a very small amount since quantsmooth and the like seem to get rid of all the blocking artifacts
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2023-04-21 08:06:06
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<@146411656174501888> if you take this image for example you can tell it's been JPEG'ed multiple times because stuff like quantsmooth and jpeg2png are unable to remove the artifacts https://i.imgur.com/GREQj.jpg
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MSLP
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_wb_
I would assume printers use some internal cpu to rasterize stuff, if it isn't done by the printer driver already
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2023-04-21 08:07:55
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Yeah, pure hardware pdf renderer could fit nicely into some steampunk universe.
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skalt711#4276
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_wb_
Does any hardware pdf renderer exist? That would be extremely surprising to me...
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2023-04-21 09:37:50
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There was a paper about the rendering being moved to GPU https://web.engr.oregonstate.edu/~mjb/cs519/Projects/Papers/AcceleratingVectorGraphicsRendering.pdf
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Traneptora
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2023-04-21 09:47:24
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<@146411656174501888> did you try scan to PDF and then extracting the embedded jpeg in the pdf?
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Demez
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Traneptora
<@146411656174501888> did you try scan to PDF and then extracting the embedded jpeg in the pdf?
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2023-04-21 10:03:12
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only with NAPS2, and it was a lower quality jpeg (quality 80 i think?), i still need to try that in other programs
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diskorduser
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2023-04-22 01:46:37
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Almost all the printers/scanner I ever used have the option to export pdf, jpg and tiff.
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Demez
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2023-04-22 02:19:31
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just a simple printer/scanner, HP Envy 5660, and yeah, i should try it with linux, i didn't even need to install drivers to get it to work with windows, but idk how my linux mint install will handle a wifi printer
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elfeïn
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2023-04-22 02:20:48
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I got it setup pretty easily when I did it
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2023-04-22 02:21:04
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That was mint in 2018, 2020
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Demez
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2023-04-22 06:14:10
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i'll have to test that out on my laptop later, which is iffy as the battery is basically dead on it, and where the printer is, i can't connect it to usb directly to my pc, and i can't move the printer anywhere
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_wb_
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2023-04-22 02:00:16
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Haha lol
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2023-04-22 02:01:20
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I wish. I would love to do that, but ISO doesn't have that kind of sense of humor, I am afraid.
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Fraetor
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MSLP
Yeah, pure hardware pdf renderer could fit nicely into some steampunk universe.
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2023-04-22 04:53:50
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Isn't that just paper?
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Traneptora
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2023-04-22 07:05:18
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I think they meant a hardware chip that rasterizes a PDF for use in printing
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2023-04-22 07:05:26
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but I guess "hardware PDFs" could be paper <:KEKW:643601031040729099>
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jonnyawsom3
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2023-04-22 10:08:05
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Solid state PDF storage
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skalt711#4276
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2023-04-23 04:10:22
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Don't think so, but x264 had a tune just for Touhou replays
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elfeïn
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2023-04-23 07:46:40
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Anybody watch SAO: Abridged?
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DZgas Ж
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2023-04-24 12:13:00
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too old
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elfeïn
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DZgas Ж
too old
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2023-04-24 01:54:07
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Then perhaps you'd enjoy the humor 🤔
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2023-04-24 01:54:32
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I'm still waiting for more episodes lol
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DZgas Ж
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elfeïn
Then perhaps you'd enjoy the humor 🤔
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2023-04-24 05:23:21
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<:Thonk:805904896879493180> || no || ||?||
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elfeïn
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DZgas Ж
<:Thonk:805904896879493180> || no || ||?||
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2023-04-24 06:01:54
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Well the writers for the abridged version have very dry humor with lots of classic movie references that us uhhhh recenter generationals wouldn't get
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Nova Aurora
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Traneptora
I think they meant a hardware chip that rasterizes a PDF for use in printing
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2023-04-24 04:30:58
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Considering the size of the PDF specification and the number of edge cases, it's going to be a huge chip
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Fraetor
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2023-04-24 05:11:52
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Typically hardware acceleration just does the most common operators (the "hot" loops), and then all the various extra stuff happens in software/firmware.
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jonnyawsom3
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2023-04-24 05:33:52
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Take out the weakest links, or rather the heaviest chains
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DZgas Ж
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gb82
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elfeïn
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DZgas Ж
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2023-04-24 11:19:21
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That's a lotta loops.
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gb82
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2023-04-24 11:22:08
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So it could give the wrong colors at times?
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Nova Aurora
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Fraetor
Typically hardware acceleration just does the most common operators (the "hot" loops), and then all the various extra stuff happens in software/firmware.
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2023-04-24 11:29:04
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Yeah but they said 'pure' hardware PDF renderer
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DZgas Ж
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elfeïn
That's a lotta loops.
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2023-04-25 09:23:29
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?
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elfeïn
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DZgas Ж
?
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2023-04-25 09:24:14
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Aren't sums loops?
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DZgas Ж
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elfeïn
Aren't sums loops?
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2023-04-25 09:25:09
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https://arxiv.org/pdf/1711.03951.pdf I took the formula from here on the second page
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spider-mario
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2023-04-25 11:53:17
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the Σ everywhere and lack of parentheses make it look more complicated than it is
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2023-04-25 11:53:56
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α = ((M × N) · sum(L .* C) − sum(L) · sum(C)) / ((M × N) · sum(L²) − sum(L)²)
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DZgas Ж
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Traneptora
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2023-04-25 09:42:30
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isn't this just least squares
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DZgas Ж
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2023-04-26 10:30:19
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does anyone know what this method of placing objects is called? I watched it for 20 seconds and figured out how to do it. it's quite simple. I would like to know the name of the method in order to try ready-made implementations
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_wb_
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2023-04-26 10:59:19
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sphere packing?
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username
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2023-04-26 11:13:38
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thumbnails are still sorta messed up but that's to be expected as it's always been like that for discord
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lithium
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2023-04-26 12:42:30
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I can't understand latin, but I like this song. 🙂
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyrsVvea0TM
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DZgas Ж
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_wb_
sphere packing?
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2023-04-26 01:11:21
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not at all. not that at all. can use any objects
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2023-04-26 01:39:11
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This is done elementary. We are creating a cube. Placing the object. And make lines the size of an object to each side of the cube. so we get 4 mathematical holograms. and this place will be considered occupied. And the object will be visible from each side of the cube. So do it in hundreds of objects and you will get this kind of animation. It's strange that I can't find anything about this
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2023-04-26 01:39:23
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2023-04-26 01:42:14
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well https://www.reddit.com/r/woahdude/comments/103zlzh/perspective_packing/
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2023-04-26 01:43:12
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https://thumbs.gfycat.com/RealisticSlightGrassspider-mobile.mp4
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2023-04-26 01:46:11
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now I see that it seems to have no name..... and for some reason it is done only with spheres
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2023-04-26 01:58:53
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https://www.shadertoy.com/view/ctjGRD
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2023-04-26 02:03:56
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as it turned out, literally the only one person on the Internet is doing this
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derberg
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2023-04-27 10:07:39
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Packing_problems this?
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2023-04-27 10:09:33
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"packing objects perfectly on 2d" leads to some nice search results
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2023-04-27 10:22:42
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Link collection from search results:
2D:
<https://www.gorillasun.de/blog/a-simple-solution-for-shape-packing-in-2d/>
<https://www.nature.com/articles/srep16722>
<https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/jacs.0c08979>
<https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/3148483/how-do-i-pack-2d-objects-into-an-arbitrary-shape>
<https://github.com/topics/rectangle-packing>
3D:
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close-packing_of_equal_spheres>
<https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.iecr.8b03915>
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2023-04-27 10:25:40
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But yeah as for the animation... that's nice but will be hard to find anything like that
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DZgas Ж
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derberg
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Packing_problems this?
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2023-04-27 02:44:57
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no
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2023-04-27 02:45:38
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<@230800661837512705> This is quite literally nothing to do with packaging at all
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2023-04-27 02:46:18
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It's not packaging at all. This is just a way to create a beautiful illusion
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DZgas Ж
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/RealisticSlightGrassspider-mobile.mp4
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2023-04-27 02:46:40
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math illusion
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sklwmp
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DZgas Ж
<@230800661837512705> This is quite literally nothing to do with packaging at all
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2023-04-27 02:48:46
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your links literally say "perspective packing"... this is a packing problem, just a different kind (not aiming for density, but perspective)
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DZgas Ж
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sklwmp
your links literally say "perspective packing"... this is a packing problem, just a different kind (not aiming for density, but perspective)
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2023-04-27 02:51:01
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This is the name given by this person. But it is not true. I followed his work and previously he was engaged in Packing spheres inside a 2d frame. But the 3D version that is being demonstrated is not packaging. Algometric it works so that it only generates spheres in free areas -- There is no solution to the problem of packaging
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2023-04-27 02:52:23
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I would call this a perspective placement of spheres
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2023-04-27 02:54:01
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I wrote an algorithm on paper. which would work. but unfortunately I am not a blender programmer to implement this. BUT this is done very simply
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2023-04-27 02:54:45
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take any point. draw lines perpendicular to each side of the cube... That is all. this space is occupied
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2023-04-27 02:55:45
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I also found out that with such an algorithm, it is impossible to intersect spheres. as well as the fact that the amount of occupied space on each side of the cube will be completely identical
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2023-04-27 02:56:47
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mostly nothing. besides the fact that it looks interesting..... as well as the fact that it can be done for absolutely any geometric shape. as well as the fact that the placed objects can be of any shape
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2023-04-27 02:57:39
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perspective placement
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derberg
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2023-04-27 03:53:44
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Yeah okay but effectively when looking at one side of the cube you get a 2D packing of spheres
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2023-04-27 03:56:18
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In some way it may be considered a packing problem
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2023-04-27 03:56:41
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However yeah, hard to find something like this
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2023-04-27 03:59:35
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Cubes like this could make some nice gifts / things for a key chain 🤔
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DZgas Ж
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derberg
Yeah okay but effectively when looking at one side of the cube you get a 2D packing of spheres
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2023-04-27 04:37:26
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If we had spheres given to us before creating the cube, we would solve the packing problem. but IT generate spheres wherever it is convenient, without solving anything.
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derberg
Cubes like this could make some nice gifts / things for a key chain 🤔
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2023-04-27 04:38:53
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Unfortunately, this animation is based on the fact that the viewing angle = 0 degrees. that is, in reality, such an effect we could not achieve. only if we made a giant monument measuring 100 stories, and would look at it from a distance of 10 km
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spider-mario
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2023-04-29 04:03:05
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https://youtu.be/ur560pZKRfg?t=42s
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2023-04-29 04:03:13
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these are the lyrics I sing now
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2023-04-29 04:03:24
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“you shine like salt and this is me”
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2023-04-29 04:03:38
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“far from fleeing and yitewewoteli”
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diskorduser
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2023-04-30 03:06:24
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https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6EsPDvSWnWvrwPmLQOZEvc?si=749f31fc8a31419f
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elfeïn
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2023-04-30 04:21:44
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Anyone else feel like they make certain observations at a regular interval?
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diskorduser
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2023-04-30 05:30:52
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Yes. I always check the time when it is 10:08
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elfeïn
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diskorduser
Yes. I always check the time when it is 10:08
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2023-04-30 06:09:35
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I feel like my memory/perception is based in 5 second intervals.
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2023-05-01 03:26:59
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https://youtu.be/E7RT4wNhiYQ
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_wb_
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2023-05-01 05:58:07
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2h24m? TL;DR?
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2023-05-01 06:04:45
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Is this just a promo video for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Science ?
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2023-05-01 06:06:16
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> There are key differences between Christian Science theology and that of traditional Christianity.[11] In particular, adherents subscribe to a radical form of philosophical idealism, believing that reality is purely spiritual and the material world an illusion.[12] This includes the view that disease is a mental error rather than physical disorder, and that the sick should be treated not by medicine but by a form of prayer that seeks to correct the beliefs responsible for the illusion of ill health.[13][14]
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2023-05-01 06:07:18
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Sounds like it's basically the Church of Placebo
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2023-05-01 06:09:34
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The placebo effect does exist and there is some amount of 'healing by sheer willpower' that actually works. But viruses and bacteria, genetic conditions, nutritional deficiencies, etc also exist 🙂
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w
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2023-05-01 06:36:30
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even in the first 10 minutes, he describes attempting it and failing(taking medicine)
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2023-05-01 06:39:03
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i'm beginning to feel youtube infotainment burnout
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spider-mario
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_wb_
The placebo effect does exist and there is some amount of 'healing by sheer willpower' that actually works. But viruses and bacteria, genetic conditions, nutritional deficiencies, etc also exist 🙂
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2023-05-01 09:26:59
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actually not really: what people think of as “the” placebo effect is vastly overrated, most of it being just regression to the mean, spontaneous recovery and reporting bias
https://www.painscience.com/articles/placebo-power-hype.php
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/placebo-myths-debunked/
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/38415685_Three_things_every_medical_writer_should_know_about_statistics
http://www.dcscience.net/2015/12/11/placebo-effects-are-weak-regression-to-the-mean-is-the-main-reason-ineffective-treatments-appear-to-work/
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1365-2796.2004.01355.x
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2023-05-01 09:28:12
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it is true that the body has impressive self-healing capabilities but it’s not going to wait around for a fake pill to kick them into action
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2023-05-01 09:28:19
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it would be surprising from an evolutionary point of view
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2023-05-01 09:28:40
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as https://www.painscience.com/articles/laser-therapy.php puts it:
> The hopes of all kinds of regenerative medicine are all pinned on the grand idea that biology has potential for improved healing that can be “unlocked.” But this is broadly implausible. Biology doesn’t really have many valuable hidden features that only emerge with an exotic/rare stimulus: either a system didn’t evolve in the first place, or it did and we’re already using it.
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> But biology is also insanely complex, so who knows?
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DZgas Ж
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2023-05-01 09:52:56
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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/803196804651941959/1102532709705859072/7ec961399aba8830.png
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2023-05-01 09:56:22
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I fell for the Mandela effect and made this meme. I always knew that all video cards support VP9 hardware encoding and even asked - why do they do this? - and they answered me, they never support VP9 hardware encoding, - I started checking.... Surprisingly, it is. never in history. Decoding only. I also found hundreds of messages in the AV1 community's discard server where people literally say VP9 hardware... Amazing Mandela effect however.
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Fox Wizard
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2023-05-01 10:04:24
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Can't find any messages over there that claim GPUs support VP9 hardware encoding though...
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DZgas Ж
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Fox Wizard
Can't find any messages over there that claim GPUs support VP9 hardware encoding though...
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2023-05-01 10:19:24
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2023-05-01 10:19:57
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Fox Wizard
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2023-05-01 10:28:42
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``there is hardware vp9 encoding in all intel since kabylake`` "Main and Main10/10-bit, and VP9 10-bit and 8-bit video.[21][24][25][26] Hardware encode is supported for H.264 (AVC), HEVC Main10/10-bit, and VP9 8-bit video. VP9 10-bit encode is not supported in hardware." according to Wikipedia
``and everything else is either using EVE-VP9 or a hardware encoder`` No mention of VP9 GPU/CPU encoding
``well afaik the hardware vp9 encoder was so buggy that intel force disables it now :kekw:`` response to a screenshot of Kaby Lake hardware encoding table from Wikipedia (which shows VP9 hardware encoding)
Too lazy too look at the others
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2023-05-01 10:32:50
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Most of the posts from those screenshots aren't about CPUs and/or GPUs having hardware encoding
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jonnyawsom3
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2023-05-01 11:19:37
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I'd imagine a lot get mixed up with HEVC/H265
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2023-05-01 11:21:05
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I know that's what I thought until I corrected myself after thinking for a minute
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_wb_
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spider-mario
it is true that the body has impressive self-healing capabilities but it’s not going to wait around for a fake pill to kick them into action
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2023-05-01 11:22:41
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Yeah or I guess in this case prayers or something rather than a fake pill, since I assume these folks don't want placebo medication either.
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yoochan
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2023-05-01 12:28:25
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https://xkcd.com/2726/
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spider-mario
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2023-05-01 03:33:43
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don’t forget the classic: https://xkcd.com/2530/
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elfeïn
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_wb_
2h24m? TL;DR?
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2023-05-02 10:07:22
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Never seen KB, I take it?
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spider-mario
it is true that the body has impressive self-healing capabilities but it’s not going to wait around for a fake pill to kick them into action
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2023-05-02 10:10:33
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It irks me that people call the body's ability to heal impressive as though there's anything to compare it to.
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spider-mario
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2023-05-02 10:12:01
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eh, “impressive” is a subjective term, I don’t feel that there is a super strong need to justify it rigorously
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elfeïn
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2023-05-02 10:12:57
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Ye ye it's not a big deal. People are allowed to be amazed by *healing*.
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2023-05-02 10:15:05
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I just take everything literally.
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_wb_
Is this just a promo video for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Science ?
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2023-05-02 10:21:59
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It's not a promo. KB does extensive research to try to bring the viewer as close as possible to the perspectives of those being researched. He is kinda known for this and even had an April fools where he shilled ancient aliens.
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_wb_
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2023-05-02 10:25:48
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that's interesting but I don't really have time to watch a 2h24m video very carefully debunking some bogus religion — though it's nice that such a thing exists, in particular for those who are into that bogus religion
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elfeïn
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_wb_
that's interesting but I don't really have time to watch a 2h24m video very carefully debunking some bogus religion — though it's nice that such a thing exists, in particular for those who are into that bogus religion
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2023-05-02 10:26:18
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I usually play it while debugging lol
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Traneptora
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2023-05-02 10:26:26
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christian science became very popular before medical technology took off and nothing really worked well
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2023-05-02 10:26:42
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but now that medical science provably works and faith healing provably doesn't
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2023-05-02 10:26:50
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it's become a lot less popular
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_wb_
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2023-05-02 10:30:16
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it's interesting how the label "science" gets used by these religions (also scientology) — as if they want to imbue their thing with some intellectual authority (without actually adopting any kind of scientific methodology, obviously)
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2023-05-02 10:31:25
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reminds me a bit of how the nazis used the label "socialism"
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elfeïn
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2023-05-02 10:34:57
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The only science they have mastered is manipulation.
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Traneptora
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2023-05-02 10:39:46
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that's more of an art :)
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elfeïn
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Traneptora
that's more of an art :)
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2023-05-02 10:40:56
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It could also be called an art, yes.
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2023-05-02 10:41:07
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Absolutely.
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2023-05-02 10:41:18
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(Whew! Almost got me!)
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Traneptora
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spider-mario
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2023-05-02 01:01:20
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I am reminded of this excerpt from Jaynes’ book on probability theory:
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2023-05-02 01:01:35
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(“ESP” = extra-sensory perception)
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2023-05-02 01:04:18
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with this additional note:
> Note that we can recognize the clear truth of this psychological phenomenon without taking any stand about the truth of the miracle; it is possible that the educated people are wrong. For example, in Laplace’s youth educated persons did not believe in meteorites, but dismissed them as ignorant folklore because they are so rarely observed. For one familiar with the laws of mechanics the notion that ‘stones fall from the sky’ seemed preposterous, while those without any conception of mechanical law saw no difficulty in the idea. But the fall at Laigle in 1803, which left fragments studied by Biot and other French scientists, changed the opinions of the educated – including Laplace himself. In this case, the uneducated, avid for the marvellous, happened to be right: _c’est la vie_.
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Fraetor
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Traneptora
christian science became very popular before medical technology took off and nothing really worked well
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2023-05-02 06:12:54
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Is this the same kind of thing as where Chinese alternative medicine was invented in the 1940/50s because post revolution there wasn't enough actual medicine to go around.
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spider-mario
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2023-05-02 07:33:25
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(Fraetor is referring to https://slate.com/technology/2013/10/traditional-chinese-medicine-origins-mao-invented-it-but-didnt-believe-in-it.html)
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2023-05-02 07:35:15
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> “Even though I believe we should promote Chinese medicine,” Mao told him, “I personally do not believe in it. I don’t take Chinese medicine.”
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> Mao’s support of Chinese medicine was inspired by political necessity.
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> […]
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> Mao knew such medicine would be unappealing to empirically minded Westerners. He knew this because it was also unappealing to empirically minded Chinese people.
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Demez
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2023-05-03 08:52:30
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https://discord.com/blog/usernames
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elfeïn
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2023-05-04 01:17:05
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> After we transition over the course of this year, everyone will have:
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> 1) A unique alphanumeric username without a discriminator, such as “@phibi”. Think of this merely as a technical necessity. This username will be used only for connecting with other users (friending) and telling users apart when you check their profiles. They’ll be limited to lowercase characters (a-z), numbers (0-9) and two special characters (period and underscore). They’ll be much easier to remember, verbalize and share with your friends. You’ll be able to continue to change your username, but not too frequently.
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2023-05-04 01:17:20
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And then a display name that can be anything.
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Fraetor
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2023-05-04 07:42:51
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Seems reasonable enough.
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elfeïn
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Fraetor
Seems reasonable enough.
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2023-05-05 03:43:39
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Ye I just yanked the relevant info because that article is so annoying to read.
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gb82
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2023-05-05 10:35:15
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https://blogs.gnome.org/shell-dev/2023/05/04/vivid-colors-in-brno/
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Fraetor
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elfeïn
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2023-05-05 11:53:11
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Shouldn't gnome work on fixing their software before adding new features?
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Fraetor
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2023-05-06 01:03:56
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Arguably this is fixing how colours are done.
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veluca
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2023-05-06 01:53:22
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'bout time
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elfeïn
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Fraetor
Arguably this is fixing how colours are done.
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2023-05-06 05:59:25
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Good point lol
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2023-05-06 06:14:18
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My gripes with gnome:
You can't disable notification popups globally, only for individual apps. I still want notifications, just no popups. Literally switched to a modal text editor because I hate popups so much. So... Much...
You can't screenshare with discord, tho that might be a compatibility issue.
Typing password doesn't automatically focus and open password prompt on login.
You can't pair/connect bluetooth from the quick menu.
Focus-stealing is still a thing. You can disable it, but then it breaks getting focus by clicking notifications, which is arguably worse.
The file explorer has no title bar, and the navigation behavior is completely foreign.
Can't snap quarters of screen.
When switching windows (like with alt + tab) windows are grouped by app.
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190n
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2023-05-06 06:20:43
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discord screensharing is cuz discord uses an old electron which doesn't support pipewire, the new way to screenshare
you can connect to bluetooth devices in the quick menu as of gnome 44, i don't think you can pair tho
you can have alt+tab not group windows by app by following the instructions here: https://blogs.gnome.org/fmuellner/2018/10/11/the-future-of-alternatetab-and-why-you-need-not-worry/
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elfeïn
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190n
discord screensharing is cuz discord uses an old electron which doesn't support pipewire, the new way to screenshare
you can connect to bluetooth devices in the quick menu as of gnome 44, i don't think you can pair tho
you can have alt+tab not group windows by app by following the instructions here: https://blogs.gnome.org/fmuellner/2018/10/11/the-future-of-alternatetab-and-why-you-need-not-worry/
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2023-05-06 09:37:43
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Oh that one seems to be fixed somehow
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2023-05-06 09:40:05
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Oh right I did follow those instructions.
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190n
discord screensharing is cuz discord uses an old electron which doesn't support pipewire, the new way to screenshare
you can connect to bluetooth devices in the quick menu as of gnome 44, i don't think you can pair tho
you can have alt+tab not group windows by app by following the instructions here: https://blogs.gnome.org/fmuellner/2018/10/11/the-future-of-alternatetab-and-why-you-need-not-worry/
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2023-05-06 09:58:13
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Ye nvm about pairing- brain grabs easy words
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2023-05-06 09:58:38
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What about focus stealing?
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190n
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2023-05-06 09:58:57
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idk about the rest
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elfeïn
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2023-05-07 02:56:39
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Thank you
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DZgas Ж
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2023-05-09 02:00:02
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The smarter the chat I'm in. The less active people in it. And in chats of not high intelligence, activity is always very good. That is, the chance that smart people will want to communicate because of their personal qualities is so small that I usually have no one to communicate with at all
— Do you know about this...? — Yes, I know. — A... Okay....
— Marvel or DC? — Yes, it doesn't matter to me.
—avif suckers agree? — I believe that everyone does something based on their tasks and goals, I don't think it's possible to offend entire development teams like this.
###Just sit still and work, there's nothing to talk about.
And as a result, hiding behind a thick layer of corporate ethics, it turns out that... the only "smart" topic becomes - "what do you think about what doesn't work, although it should work"
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2023-05-09 02:03:21
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<:Thonk:805904896879493180>
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2023-05-09 02:07:58
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And as a result, here are example of a topic that anyone in this chat would like to say - why discord, as a multimillion-dollar corporation and hundreds of millions of users, is engaged in such bullshit as transcoding files into jpeg and webp, instead of ADD new technologies. Do they have specialists?
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derberg
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2023-05-09 02:51:36
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Well, it is not necessarily about how smart people are but the niche I guess.
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2023-05-09 02:56:43
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But yeah, it looks like you can lose the majority of people pretty quickly
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2023-05-09 03:30:16
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If you got a topic that is overlapping several niches, you can quickly go down from maybe two digit million amounts of people that actually do something regarding each of that topic (with maybe a one digit amount of people participating in communities) — and that is already cutting away the vast majority of humanity that is for some reason not interested in doing anything regarding those bigger topics — to a few hundred people participating. No matter the actual complexity.
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yoochan
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DZgas Ж
The smarter the chat I'm in. The less active people in it. And in chats of not high intelligence, activity is always very good. That is, the chance that smart people will want to communicate because of their personal qualities is so small that I usually have no one to communicate with at all
— Do you know about this...? — Yes, I know. — A... Okay....
— Marvel or DC? — Yes, it doesn't matter to me.
—avif suckers agree? — I believe that everyone does something based on their tasks and goals, I don't think it's possible to offend entire development teams like this.
###Just sit still and work, there's nothing to talk about.
And as a result, hiding behind a thick layer of corporate ethics, it turns out that... the only "smart" topic becomes - "what do you think about what doesn't work, although it should work"
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2023-05-09 07:28:20
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My theory is that there is 2 kind of people here : those who use this Discord to synchronize their work (ie. the core developper team and the developpers of other implementations/tools) and communicate news/events/thoughts around the jpegxl and those (like me) who are here to enjoy the discussions, read the news and share the thoughts but have no amazing information to add to the flow... hence, most of the time I read this discord quietly...
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2023-05-09 07:30:32
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I would enjoy to discuss encoding and mangas with you dzgas but I have a newborn at home and my bandwidth to experiment new stuff dropped to zero 🥲
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nec
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2023-05-09 07:48:31
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I suppose there are 2 factors. People with interests usually have more things to do. And usually the more intelligent people are, the more abstract and context-depended conversation becomes. Like a single word or short phrase is enough to understand the idea.
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spider-mario
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2023-05-09 08:59:24
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https://github.com/JHRobotics/softgpu nice
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2023-05-09 08:59:51
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(hardware-accelerated OpenGL/DirectX/3dfx in Windows 98 VMs)
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DZgas Ж
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DZgas Ж
And as a result, here are example of a topic that anyone in this chat would like to say - why discord, as a multimillion-dollar corporation and hundreds of millions of users, is engaged in such bullshit as transcoding files into jpeg and webp, instead of ADD new technologies. Do they have specialists?
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2023-05-09 02:26:40
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And yet no one caught on to this topic
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derberg
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DZgas Ж
And yet no one caught on to this topic
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2023-05-09 07:25:50
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To give an unorthodox answer: Incompetence at Discord.
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Fraetor
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2023-05-09 07:26:29
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Or more specifically, lack of competence in the domain of image processing.
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derberg
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2023-05-09 07:26:34
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Those extremely big companies tend to have a lot of people that are incompetent, lazy or busy enough to ignore sane stuff. And those work on the big things.
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Fraetor
Or more specifically, lack of competence in the domain of image processing.
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2023-05-09 07:30:40
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Well, they could pay people for helping them in that domain.
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derberg
To give an unorthodox answer: Incompetence at Discord.
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2023-05-09 07:32:25
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This has a longer backstory btw. I use Discord since 2016 so I have seen a lot of very bad things
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Fraetor
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2023-05-09 07:32:28
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First they need to recognise that there is a problem, which requires a certain degree of domain knowledge.
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derberg
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2023-05-09 07:34:03
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Yeah, or at least people telling them there is a problem. The latter show up over time tho.
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nec
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2023-05-09 07:38:09
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Wouldn't it be also more business related? Count how much money change cost, count how much money it can save/bring?
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derberg
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2023-05-09 07:38:48
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Well. Maybe true for some companies?
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2023-05-09 07:39:01
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But I know a lot of companies just go the easy looking route when it comes to some decisions
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nec
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2023-05-09 07:39:29
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Yes. It makes sense.
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derberg
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2023-05-09 07:39:41
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Even tho some people inside should know that something is more sane and would save money over time
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nec
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2023-05-09 07:41:54
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Like you know, I have only small projects, but sometimes it really takes a lot of efforts to change something. Now multiply that by a thousand to get Discord scale and people just don't wanna deal with it.
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DZgas Ж
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2023-05-09 10:52:44
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I spent several hours on this on my own work. But maybe it will be useful to someone.
GDX Texture Packer -- is the best software that makes the smartest of all that I have found packing hundreds and thousands of images of different sizes into one image in the most efficient way that I could find on the Internet at all.
https://github.com/crashinvaders/gdx-texture-packer-gui
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yoochan
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2023-05-10 08:06:25
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what do you use it for ?
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2023-05-10 08:28:28
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the world is small, a former author of this tools seems to be a friend of mine from 15 years ago when we both did inline skates 😄
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DZgas Ж
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yoochan
what do you use it for ?
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2023-05-10 08:36:10
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yoochan
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2023-05-10 08:38:34
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well, that's finely packed ! can jpegxl make use of patches with this kind of image ?
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_wb_
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2023-05-10 08:54:02
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jxl the format certainly can — question is if libjxl the encoder can 🙂
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DZgas Ж
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2023-05-10 09:04:22
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🤨 I would like to understand why I need it at all
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spider-mario
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2023-05-10 12:22:40
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https://youtu.be/_4dxA8FUW1w
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2023-05-10 12:22:43
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been a bit obsessed with this lately
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derberg
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yoochan
well, that's finely packed ! can jpegxl make use of patches with this kind of image ?
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2023-05-10 04:19:55
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Damn, the possibilities.
Emotes and text with same font...
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2023-05-10 04:20:04
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~~Xerox gate 2~~
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yoochan
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2023-05-11 07:16:22
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in fact I was looking if in some real-life cases like this one, the font rendering could allow an algorithm to find patches matching but is seems that once again the font ~~kerning ~~ hinting screw up (almost) everything
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spider-mario
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2023-05-11 08:16:12
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I would have suspected the (lack of) hinting
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yoochan
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2023-05-11 08:56:01
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yep, wrong choice of word, I found this interesting piece of text : https://pandasauce.org/post/linux-fonts/
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spider-mario
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2023-05-11 09:10:56
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ah, I remember the PDFs (some of them) with weird rendering on Linux
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2023-05-11 09:11:08
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embedding the fonts into the PDF seems to solve the issue
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2023-05-11 09:11:36
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whenever I would come across a problematic pdf, I would run `ps2pdf -dPDFX input.pdf output.pdf` and open `output.pdf` instead
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2023-05-11 09:13:22
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> Funnily enough, in my adventures I learned that some people prefer the fuzzy and blurry rendering of OS X defaults on Windows. They found a way to replace the Windows rendering engine with FreeType for this purpose and the tool is called MacType. Since FreeType is highly configurable, it allows you to disable hinting and mimic OS X approach to rendering fonts. You will see below why this actually makes for a worse user experience without even talking about stability issues that this is bound to introduce.
I use MacType and I have not seen below why it makes for a worse user experience
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yoochan
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2023-05-11 09:14:12
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perhaps you got used to it 😄
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spider-mario
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2023-05-11 09:14:53
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not just that – there must be a reason I started using it in the first place, no? 😉
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2023-05-11 09:14:58
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it was not force-installed on my machine
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2023-05-11 09:15:51
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but then, at 4K/32" (138ppi), I guess my screen is “mildly high-dpi”
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yoochan
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2023-05-11 09:16:21
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to my taste, and despite my aversion of patents, I found the progress brought by clearType was really a game changer at the time
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2023-05-11 09:16:58
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indeed, the issue is dissolved by high resolutions
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spider-mario
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2023-05-11 09:21:52
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Qt6 has noticeably improved high-dpi font rendering on Windows compared to Qt5 (at least with weird scaling factors like my 150%):
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2023-05-11 09:23:01
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(in this case, it seems that disabled groupboxes are no longer rendered gray so perhaps I should have checked the checkbox so that the text would be black in both cases)
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yoochan
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2023-05-11 09:26:08
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the difference is very noticeable !
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spider-mario
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2023-05-11 08:28:11
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gtk2, are you okay?
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2023-05-11 09:28:49
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https://twitter.com/infectio01/status/1606355717371281410
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elfeïn
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spider-mario
gtk2, are you okay?
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2023-05-12 02:14:27
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Lol why is it like that?
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Traneptora
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2023-05-12 10:54:04
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I loled at "roar" ngl
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2023-05-12 03:54:45
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https://twitter.com/Google/status/1653866291692728320
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2023-05-12 03:54:53
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why google, why .zip
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_wb_
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2023-05-12 06:40:53
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What is the point of all these new silly TLDs? It has been going on for a while now.
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Traneptora
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2023-05-12 08:44:29
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I don't mind more TLDs I just find it weird that they add .zip
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2023-05-12 08:44:34
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that's like, asking for phishing to happen
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Nova Aurora
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2023-05-12 08:47:12
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The branded TLDs are the worst for me, cluttering up the namespace with parked top-level domains
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Fraetor
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2023-05-12 09:14:37
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Arguably they don't clutter the name space in the same way, as they are more creating new namespaces.
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2023-05-12 09:15:30
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But when they are really specific it does make you wonder about their longevity. Cool URLs don't change. (https://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/URI)
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spider-mario
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Traneptora
that's like, asking for phishing to happen
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2023-05-12 09:29:17
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.mov too
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Fraetor
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2023-05-12 11:12:16
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Something like `https://apple.com-firmware.zip`
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jonnyawsom3
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2023-05-12 11:15:34
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`https://zip.zip/zip.zip`
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2023-05-12 11:16:06
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I think zip has now lost all meaning to me
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_wb_
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2023-05-13 04:43:50
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.com used to be as common as .exe in DOS
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zamfofex
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2023-05-13 04:53:12
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Note also that there *is* a `.sh` TLD. 😅
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Nova Aurora
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Note also that there *is* a `.sh` TLD. 😅
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2023-05-13 06:11:31
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Yeah but as the country TLD of Saint Helena, created under ISOs country code system
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2023-05-13 06:13:33
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I think there is also less trust for something ending in `.sh` than for something ending in `.zip` or `.mov`, which is important for the use of a domain in phishing
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spider-mario
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I think zip has now lost all meaning to me
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2023-05-13 07:47:15
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the technical term for this is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_satiation
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elfeïn
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2023-05-13 05:39:32
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This will be my first time trying to use extended partitions.
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spider-mario
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2023-05-13 06:48:27
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as in, the workaround for the MBR 4-partition limitation?
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Traneptora
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2023-05-13 07:33:18
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I just use gpt now
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elfeïn
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spider-mario
as in, the workaround for the MBR 4-partition limitation?
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2023-05-14 01:32:01
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Yep
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diskorduser
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elfeïn
Yep
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2023-05-14 09:06:18
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Why are you using mbr
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veluca
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Traneptora
I just use gpt now
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2023-05-14 09:31:14
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who doesn't? 😛
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Fraetor
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2023-05-14 10:53:12
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MBR is useful for firmware flashing (usually when combined with FAT32), but I don't really see much of a use case for it outside of that these days.
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spider-mario
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2023-05-14 10:53:58
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I used GPT even before switching to UEFI
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2023-05-14 10:54:09
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(syslinux supports BIOS/GPT)
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Traneptora
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2023-05-14 05:13:07
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I use Grub instead of syslinux mostly cause it's what I've always used
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Fraetor
MBR is useful for firmware flashing (usually when combined with FAT32), but I don't really see much of a use case for it outside of that these days.
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2023-05-14 05:13:38
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if you have no need for partitions, e.g. portable USB drives, then MBR + Fat32 is universally supported
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2023-05-14 05:14:01
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I don't really see the need for GPT for pluggable non-bootable drives
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veluca
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Traneptora
I don't really see the need for GPT for pluggable non-bootable drives
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2023-05-14 05:34:29
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well, >4tb, no?
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2023-05-14 05:34:45
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(granted most pluggable non-bootable drives are not >4tb)
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Traneptora
I use Grub instead of syslinux mostly cause it's what I've always used
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2023-05-14 05:35:51
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there was a time of my life in which I just used efi-stub as a "bootloader"
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spider-mario
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2023-05-14 05:58:33
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my favourite nowadays is rEFInd
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Traneptora
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veluca
(granted most pluggable non-bootable drives are not >4tb)
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2023-05-14 05:59:24
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ye I don't see 4TB removable usb drives
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spider-mario
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2023-05-14 06:00:05
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the netbook I bought in 2012 turned out to have an UEFI firmware disguising itself as a BIOS
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2023-05-14 06:00:17
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it normally wouldn’t expose the EFI functionality
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veluca
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Traneptora
ye I don't see 4TB removable usb drives
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2023-05-14 06:00:36
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I have a 32tb "removable usb drive" 😛
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spider-mario
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2023-05-14 06:00:44
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unless there was an EFI bootable drive plugged in, in which case the F10 (?) boot menu only would offer to boot it
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2023-05-14 06:00:51
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I never found a way to default to an EFI boot
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2023-05-14 06:01:09
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but I did make it so that my netbook’s hard drive could be booted indifferently in either BIOS or UEFI 😄
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2023-05-14 06:03:01
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I don’t remember if I ever tried hibernating in UEFI and resuming in BIOS or vice versa
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2023-05-14 06:03:30
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I think I might have, but then I don’t remember the outcome
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elfeïn
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diskorduser
Why are you using mbr
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2023-05-14 09:41:59
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Idk if I'm actually using that. I saw "4 partition limit" and said yes.
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Traneptora
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2023-05-15 05:38:10
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MBR is what would you'd be using if you had a 4 partition limit
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2023-05-15 05:38:16
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GPT has no partition limit
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2023-05-15 05:38:20
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(well, effectively none)
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diskorduser
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2023-05-15 09:30:30
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255 on linux and 128 on windows
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2023-05-15 09:30:58
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idk about mac os.
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Traneptora
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2023-05-15 01:46:21
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effectively none <:kek:857018203640561677>
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diskorduser
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2023-05-15 03:39:59
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16 or 32. https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/80794/why-should-i-observe-a-limit-of-sixteen-partitions-per-disk-with-os-x
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Traneptora
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2023-05-15 06:41:53
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well effectively none on other systems ig
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spider-mario
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2023-05-15 07:20:44
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that link is from 10 years ago
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2023-05-15 07:20:52
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things might have changed in the meantime
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diskorduser
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2023-05-16 06:31:52
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/Crg4XiUswX6/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
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Traneptora
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spider-mario
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2023-05-16 10:06:15
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just realised that macOS’s GUI allows naming files with (apparent) `/`
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2023-05-16 10:06:28
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they are stored as `:` on the filesystem
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2023-05-16 10:06:33
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and so it’s `:` that the GUI disallows
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2023-05-16 10:06:35
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???
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2023-05-16 10:07:27
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(what led to this discovery is that I tried to save a file as `/tmp/a.jpg` and ended up with `~/Downloads/:tmp:a.jpg`)
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zamfofex
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2023-05-16 10:19:36
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What happens if you try to name it with `:`? 😄
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spider-mario
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2023-05-16 10:37:29
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it tells me that that name can’t be used and to try a name with fewer characters or no punctuation marks
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2023-05-16 10:37:32
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> Essayez d’utiliser un nom comportant moins de caractères ou ne présentant aucun signe de ponctuation.
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zamfofex
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2023-05-16 10:52:18
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Huh. I guess for the end‐user, wanting to name a file with a slash is more common.
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2023-05-16 10:53:11
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Though I think it’d make more sense to have chosen an even less common punctuation mark as a surrogate like that, perhaps `~`.
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elfeïn
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2023-05-16 11:44:01
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that is so cursed
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derberg
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diskorduser
255 on linux and 128 on windows
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2023-05-17 01:47:30
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And about 26 (or maybe a few less even) during the Windows installation (not a joke, it will refuse to install with a barely helpful message if a drive with more partitions is connected...)...
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Traneptora
effectively none <:kek:857018203640561677>
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2023-05-17 01:49:27
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_Me with a few dozen of partitions on one HDD:_
Yes, ha ha
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2023-05-17 01:49:31
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https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/933991733237276692.webp?size=48&name=CB_shibaheh&quality=lossless
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190n
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spider-mario
they are stored as `:` on the filesystem
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2023-05-17 04:39:00
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i thought it was a weirder character
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2023-05-17 04:39:17
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my brother named stuff with mm/dd/yyyy on a flash drive and i recall having to use tab completion to enter the filenames on linux
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Traneptora
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2023-05-17 06:17:06
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`:` isn't permitted in DOS which makes it weird on FAT32 filesystems
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2023-05-17 06:17:13
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so it would be something else
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Demez
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2023-05-17 06:26:40
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this is awful
https://blog.google/technology/safety-security/updating-our-inactive-account-policies/
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jonnyawsom3
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2023-05-17 09:32:20
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Seems to be happing at a lot of sites all at once
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Demez
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2023-05-17 09:55:15
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I will be trying to do a lot of backups while I still can
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Fraetor
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2023-05-17 04:33:26
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I can see where they are coming from, but I don't want to lose the absolute treasure trove of conference talks uploaded by random people 10 years ago, etc.
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2023-05-17 04:34:29
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If I were they I'd "fossilise" inactive accounts, making them read only, or even just remove the ability to log in.
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2023-05-17 04:36:15
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Though I do wonder if that could cause legal issues around the right to deletion; you wouldn't be able to delete an account that had been fossilised.
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nec
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2023-05-17 04:52:27
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Simple rule. If you want to keep something important, make at least 1 backup.
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Demez
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2023-05-17 07:45:38
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false alarm I guess?
https://twitter.com/YouTubeLiaison/status/1658829489466384387
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spider-mario
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2023-05-17 09:53:50
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> When you purchase one of my courses directly from my site, you have 24/7 access to it for as long as this site exist.
I’m sure this is meant to be reassuring but I’m not fully comfortable with the statement
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jonnyawsom3
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2023-05-17 10:21:15
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"You have unlimited access, until you don't"
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spider-mario
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2023-05-18 08:46:36
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it’s a course about another kind of Modular
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2023-05-18 08:46:40
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(modular synthesis)
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2023-05-18 08:47:06
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the course uses this software synth: https://www.arturia.com/products/analog-classics/modular-v
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2023-05-18 08:47:25
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a software recreation of the classic Moog
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elfeïn
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2023-05-19 09:27:52
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Nya!~ :3
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diskorduser
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Fox Wizard
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2023-05-19 09:43:56
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<:UwU:911376902411919421>
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jonnyawsom3
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Traneptora
https://twitter.com/Google/status/1653866291692728320
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2023-05-19 10:59:33
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Top is real, bottom is malicious
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zamfofex
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2023-05-19 12:15:19
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Ah, the slashes are wrong! 😄 Took me a while to notice.
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2023-05-19 12:15:45
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I’d expect this would be resolved by virtue of showing it in punycode form, like browsers would likely do anyway.
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Top is real, bottom is malicious
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2023-05-19 12:16:44
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But isn’t it the other way around?
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2023-05-19 12:17:12
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Ah, it’s not a domain name, it’s a username!
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2023-05-19 12:17:28
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And indeed, the top one seems to be the malicious one. (I.e. you got it the wrong way around.)
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2023-05-19 12:18:16
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Thankfully, browsers (and I think most tools) will elide the credentials from URLs altogether.
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2023-05-19 12:19:59
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Where the top one is malicious because the domain name is `v1271.zip`, and the username of the URL is `github.com/.../tags/` (with funny Unicode slashes).
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jonnyawsom3
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2023-05-19 12:38:15
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Just goes to show how confusing it is
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Traneptora
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2023-05-19 05:42:34
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looks like japanese slashes
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elfeïn
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Top is real, bottom is malicious
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2023-05-19 09:47:25
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Top is real bottom? 😳
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Traneptora
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elfeïn
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2023-05-20 12:43:38
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They are all slanted lines :/
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spider-mario
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2023-05-20 07:56:53
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https://twitter.com/vzverovich/status/1659687358474891265
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Nova Aurora
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2023-05-21 12:38:05
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Less efficient than XML <:monkaMega:809252622900789269>
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190n
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spider-mario
https://twitter.com/vzverovich/status/1659687358474891265
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2023-05-21 03:21:20
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https://github.com/64/cmake-raytracer
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elfeïn
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2023-05-21 05:46:16
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What even is cmake
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Nova Aurora
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elfeïn
What even is cmake
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2023-05-21 09:27:57
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A system used to build C/C++ projects, it comes with it's own script language to cutomize your builds
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yoochan
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2023-05-21 10:06:42
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Cmake is a huge spaghetti mess pooped on top of the pipe nightmare which `make` is...
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spider-mario
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2023-05-21 04:27:16
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make isn’t CMake’s only backend
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2023-05-21 04:27:29
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I mainly use the ninja one nowadays
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2023-05-21 04:28:34
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https://github.com/libjxl/libjxl/blob/91760e31a40fb811867fbe9bda6ddf73c962389e/ci.sh#L343
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2023-05-21 08:55:19
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just did a `for d in */; mv $d (echo $d | perl -pe "s/...//"); end` (fish syntax), on windows, and ended up with directory names ending in `\r` 😩
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Traneptora
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spider-mario
just did a `for d in */; mv $d (echo $d | perl -pe "s/...//"); end` (fish syntax), on windows, and ended up with directory names ending in `\r` 😩
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2023-05-22 04:09:22
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```sh
for d in */; do mv -v "$d" "$(printf %s "$d" | sed 's/...//')"; done
```
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2023-05-22 04:09:31
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trick is to use `printf` instead of `echo`
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2023-05-22 04:09:46
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or to use `"$(foo)"`
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2023-05-22 04:10:01
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which helpfully strips all trailing newlines from output
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2023-05-22 04:10:07
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including CRs on windows
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spider-mario
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2023-05-22 04:10:35
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I’m not sure fish has an equivalent to "$(...)"
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Traneptora
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2023-05-22 04:10:45
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oh this isn't shell?
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spider-mario
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2023-05-22 04:10:52
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I mean, it’s supposed to be (...), but it seems the windows implementation doesn’t strip \r then
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Traneptora
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2023-05-22 04:11:06
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either way `printf %s "$d"` won't attach a newline at the end
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2023-05-22 04:11:15
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`echo "$d"` is unsafe anyway
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2023-05-22 04:11:19
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since echo accepts switches
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2023-05-22 04:11:51
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not that you should name a directory something stupid like `--help` that's just asking for bad stuff
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spider-mario
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2023-05-22 04:11:54
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true, but I usually don’t name my files with starting `-` anyway 😁
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2023-05-22 04:11:58
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(these were my files)
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Traneptora
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2023-05-22 04:11:58
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but `printf %s "$d"` is resilient against that
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spider-mario
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2023-05-22 04:12:08
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I ended up fixing the problem with a quick perl loop
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Traneptora
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2023-05-22 04:12:24
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but ye, in the future printf is the way to avoid a newline at the end
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2023-05-22 04:12:31
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e.g. if you want to md5 something from the CLI
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2023-05-22 04:12:44
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you can do `printf %s "$variable" | md5 -`
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2023-05-22 04:12:51
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which will md5 the variable without the newline
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Husam
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2023-05-24 12:32:04
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My jaw dropped when I saw this woman wearing a pattern similar to a pattern that I discovered
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2023-05-24 12:45:15
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The right image can be generated with C code like
```c
image[y][x] = (x * x ^ y * y) & q ? BLACK : WHITE;
```
for a range of `x`s and `y`s and some `q` that is a power of 2
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_wb_
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2023-05-24 05:29:08
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That doesn't _look_ like it has a short jxl art representation, but maybe there is...
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2023-05-24 05:29:47
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In any case it's probably a very effective pattern to create Moiré
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yoochan
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Husam
My jaw dropped when I saw this woman wearing a pattern similar to a pattern that I discovered
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2023-05-24 06:52:09
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Ninja'ed by gucci
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elfeïn
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2023-05-25 08:15:17
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https://twitter.com/panley01/status/1661463308971417601
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2023-05-27 08:20:38
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spider-mario
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spider-mario
it’s a course about another kind of Modular
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2023-05-29 10:40:13
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2023-05-29 10:46:00
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yoochan
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elfeïn
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2023-05-30 07:04:24
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I didn't get the reference 😅
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elfeïn
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yoochan
I didn't get the reference 😅
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2023-05-30 07:04:37
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hehehe
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2023-05-30 07:05:25
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A320 doesn't have a pit 1
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2023-05-30 07:05:31
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that's all lol
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yoochan
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2023-05-30 07:06:14
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but what is pit ? like brad-pit ? cock-pit ? pit-ot ?
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elfeïn
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2023-05-30 07:10:22
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it's a compartment in the underbelly of the plane
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yoochan
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2023-05-30 07:31:33
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oki
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2023-05-30 07:31:43
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didn't know 😄
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elfeïn
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yoochan
didn't know 😄
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2023-05-30 08:05:59
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ye that's why i love that meme lol
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diskorduser
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2023-05-30 02:30:00
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https://i.redd.it/vm53mf20vx2b1.jpg
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Traneptora
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2023-05-30 09:16:56
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I hate this
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elfeïn
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2023-05-30 09:31:42
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if not ii w then w
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2023-05-30 09:34:10
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looks like someone's been defacing our poor city's buildings
we'll just have to teach them a lesson
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2023-05-30 09:34:14
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<:CatBlobPolice:805388337862279198>
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2023-05-31 03:45:05
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DZgas Ж
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diskorduser
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DZgas Ж
Bruh
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2023-05-31 11:29:24
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Do you use arch btw?
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yoochan
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2023-05-31 01:31:06
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does people really _use_ arch ? I heard it was only meant to recompile package, reinstall it again and again and spend all your week-ends to configure it...
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diskorduser
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2023-05-31 01:37:45
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Bruh
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2023-05-31 01:43:41
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Arch is not gentoo
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yoochan
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spider-mario
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2023-05-31 02:19:41
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yeah, no, you’re thinking of NixOS
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2023-05-31 02:20:24
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I have never had to reinstall Arch on any of the machines I’ve installed it on (4 + 1 VM)
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2023-05-31 02:20:32
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(although it came close, once)
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Traneptora
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2023-05-31 02:21:27
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I personally use arch although the meme about "I use arch btw" is a bit excessive
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2023-05-31 02:21:35
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NixOS and Gentoo are more beardy
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2023-05-31 02:21:51
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and yea Arch is far more stable than it was in, say, 2012
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spider-mario
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2023-05-31 02:21:57
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recursive `sudo chmod` on home directory + the `~/.wine/dos_devices/z:` symlink to `/` do not combine well
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Traneptora
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2023-05-31 02:22:14
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haha, that one is user error tho
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2023-05-31 02:22:42
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since there is a `--preserve-root` option
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2023-05-31 02:22:53
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`--preserve-root fail to operate recursively on '/'`
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spider-mario
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2023-05-31 02:23:21
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I don’t think it actually operated recursively on /, just on / itself (which made the diagnosis harder)
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2023-05-31 02:23:33
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`ls -l /` didn’t show anything suspicious
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Traneptora
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2023-05-31 02:23:38
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ah I see
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spider-mario
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2023-05-31 02:23:41
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_but_ `ls -ld /` (or `stat /`) did
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Traneptora
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2023-05-31 02:24:10
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but in all seriousness, arch linux has come a long way when it comes to stability
it's pretty usable as a daily drive
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yoochan
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Traneptora
NixOS and Gentoo are more beardy
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2023-05-31 02:24:25
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less than LFS 😄
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spider-mario
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2023-05-31 02:24:28
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I used it 2010-2020 (and still in a VM)
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Traneptora
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2023-05-31 02:24:37
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what do you use now?
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spider-mario
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2023-05-31 02:24:44
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I migrated to systemd before it was even mandatory
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Traneptora
what do you use now?
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2023-05-31 02:25:02
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Windows and macOS 😂 😅
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Traneptora
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2023-05-31 02:25:37
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for development I find POSIX is easier
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2023-05-31 02:25:40
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than windows
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2023-05-31 02:25:50
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not sure how compliant macOS is with POSIX, tbh
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yoochan
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2023-05-31 02:26:07
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it's freeBSD under the hood... but
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Traneptora
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2023-05-31 02:26:17
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nah, it's not based on FreeBSD
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spider-mario
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2023-05-31 02:26:19
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I find that msys2 and the new windows terminal alleviate much of the pain there used to be with windows
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Traneptora
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2023-05-31 02:26:41
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I prefer WSL over msys2
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2023-05-31 02:26:50
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and yea the new windows terminal that you can actually make bigger <:KEKW:643601031040729099>
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spider-mario
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2023-05-31 02:27:17
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and with tabs, and better support for non-ASCII characters
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2023-05-31 02:27:26
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and clickable links
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2023-05-31 02:27:27
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etc.
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Traneptora
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2023-05-31 02:27:35
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and curl
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2023-05-31 02:27:36
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:D
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2023-05-31 02:27:51
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you used to have to use powershell to download a file from the internet with the windows CLI
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DZgas Ж
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diskorduser
Do you use arch btw?
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2023-05-31 02:44:55
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no, I use linux for 1 year and then switched back to windows, to the repack windows, to the windows that were turned inside out and deleted everything except Windows
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elfeïn
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2023-05-31 03:38:22
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I just don't like arch users.
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Traneptora
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2023-05-31 03:38:28
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why not?
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elfeïn
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Traneptora
why not?
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2023-05-31 03:38:37
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How do you tell someone uses Arch?
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Traneptora
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2023-05-31 03:38:49
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you ask them what operating system they use and they tell you
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elfeïn
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2023-05-31 03:39:19
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Nah, they'll just tell you
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Traneptora
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2023-05-31 03:39:29
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yes I'm aware of the meme but it's really not that true
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2023-05-31 03:40:03
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it's really just a meme
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2023-05-31 03:40:29
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it's pretty silly to dislike everyone who uses a particular distribution cause you believe in some meme
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elfeïn
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2023-05-31 03:43:02
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You're right, it is.
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diskorduser
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2023-05-31 04:35:46
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https://github.com/crablang/crab/issues/59 🔪
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elfeïn
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2023-05-31 04:36:51
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bruhhh This is epic
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DZgas Ж
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elfeïn
I just don't like arch users.
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2023-05-31 04:42:45
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when steamdeck
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elfeïn
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2023-05-31 04:43:13
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what's steamdeck
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diskorduser
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jonnyawsom3
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2023-05-31 05:14:43
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There's your awnser
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elfeïn
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2023-05-31 06:00:56
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LOL
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diskorduser
https://github.com/crablang/crab/issues/59 🔪
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2023-05-31 08:14:04
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What's the difference between Crablang and Dust?
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Traneptora
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elfeïn
What's the difference between Crablang and Dust?
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2023-05-31 11:14:39
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atm there's no difference between Crab and Rust, it's essentially a fork with no functional changes, just renamed
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2023-05-31 11:14:46
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it's a protest to the trademark controversy
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elfeïn
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Traneptora
atm there's no difference between Crab and Rust, it's essentially a fork with no functional changes, just renamed
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2023-05-31 11:15:04
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No no- Dust, not Rust
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Traneptora
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2023-05-31 11:15:23
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uh, I'm not familiar with Dust so idk
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diskorduser
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2023-05-31 11:15:36
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what AI software is this <:KEKW:643601031040729099>
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elfeïn
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Traneptora
what AI software is this <:KEKW:643601031040729099>
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2023-05-31 11:15:54
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looks like SD
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Traneptora
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2023-05-31 11:16:02
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yea but the UI looks different
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elfeïn
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Traneptora
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2023-05-31 11:16:09
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I was wondering what the frontend was
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