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CrushedAsian255
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2024-09-16 01:54:20
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there we go
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2024-09-16 01:54:30
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`[spider-mar.io](https://spider-mar.io)`
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2024-09-16 01:55:21
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your website's images are not JXLs
instant points off
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spider-mario
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2024-09-16 01:56:39
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I used an existing gallery generator (https://github.com/thumbsup/thumbsup) which doesn’t seem to have support for it yet
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CrushedAsian255
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2024-09-16 01:57:27
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Send a PR
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spider-mario
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2024-09-16 01:57:46
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(previously, I ran Lychee, but I got tired of managing a PHP install so I searched for a static alternative instead)
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_wb_
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2024-09-16 02:00:24
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I haven't updated my personal page in 4 years or so, maybe it's time for an update
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spider-mario
×20 storage? which host is it?
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2024-09-16 02:02:24
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versio.nl — I guess they somehow messed up and didn't set correct quota for my account, since I'm paying for the plan that is supposed to have 15 GB storage and unlimited bandwidth. So I guess they bumped me up to 100 GB storage just to buy my silence, haha
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2024-09-16 02:26:51
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yeah the embed seems to no longer work, somehow it still shows old stuff
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2024-09-16 02:30:22
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oh
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2024-09-16 02:31:08
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looks like it switched from just showing recent tweets to showing "top posts"
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2024-09-16 02:33:32
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that is dumb, I wanted to use it as a quick&dirty way to put some recent stuff on my page, not silly tweets from years ago that somehow got many likes
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Meow
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2024-09-16 02:40:29
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I simply use WordPress for my personal one (not self-hosted)
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jonnyawsom3
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_wb_
I haven't updated my personal page in 4 years or so, maybe it's time for an update
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2024-09-16 03:11:04
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"I hand wrote this HTML in a text editor, and hand encoded the JXL images seen below"
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_wb_
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2024-09-16 03:16:28
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I just removed the twitter embed for now
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CrushedAsian255
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2024-09-17 05:22:50
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<@532010383041363969> my webp decoder is getting there, still need to implement prediction but I have gotten the main image entropy decoded
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2024-09-17 05:23:21
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_wb_
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2024-09-17 06:33:24
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That's an image for <#805007255061790730>
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CrushedAsian255
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_wb_
That's an image for <#805007255061790730>
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2024-09-17 06:37:35
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it's not JXL though, that's why I posted it here
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username
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2024-09-17 06:44:54
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doesn't have to be JXL related to be in that channel
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CrushedAsian255
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2024-09-17 07:02:12
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Huh, I’ve got some more buggy looking images, might post
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Meow
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2024-09-17 07:08:09
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For blog posts and some pages it should be fine
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jonnyawsom3
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2024-09-17 10:29:24
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As a rough rule of thumb, I consider <#794206087879852106> for anything image related, and <#806898911091753051> for anything not an image or <#805176455658733570>
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spider-mario
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spider-mario
(in the context menu that appears when selecting text in posts, they’ve translated “Share quote” to French as the equivalent of “Share cost estimate”)
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2024-09-17 08:50:47
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they argue that it’s correct because it translates back as “Share quote” 😩
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2024-09-17 08:51:10
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this is even after I explained that
> This is as if you reported to me that « Le voyant va s’allumer » had been wrongly translated into English as “The clairvoyant will turn on” instead of “The light will turn on” and I said that there is no issue because it still translates back to « Le voyant ».
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frep
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spider-mario
they argue that it’s correct because it translates back as “Share quote” 😩
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2024-09-17 10:20:39
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"when in doubt, trust the machine" - a monolingual person
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2024-09-17 10:21:43
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i was gonna write "a bean counter" but there's no expression for the level of high-and-mightiness at LinkedIn
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_wb_
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2024-09-18 07:00:57
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This reminds me of people saying lossless jpeg recompression is not lossless because even though it roundtrips, the jxl decodes to different pixels. Except there the argument is wrong and here it is right 🙂
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2024-09-18 05:46:34
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spider-mario
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2024-09-18 06:25:10
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plus, people want photos of their actual wedding, not fictional pictures of an imaginary wedding
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2024-09-18 06:25:31
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(or, well, maybe that too, but still also the former)
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Quackdoc
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spider-mario
plus, people want photos of their actual wedding, not fictional pictures of an imaginary wedding
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2024-09-18 07:06:03
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Very true, the AI part comes afterwards because you had a divorce and you want to remove your significant other or rather past tense significant other from all the photos.
<:kekw:808717074305122316>
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Tirr
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2024-09-19 08:21:01
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```
Python 3.12.4 (main, Jun 7 2024, 06:33:07) [GCC 14.1.1 20240522] on linux
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> chr(sum(range(ord(min(str(not()))))))
'ඞ'
```
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2024-09-19 08:21:04
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very sus expression
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CrushedAsian255
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2024-09-19 08:23:05
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```
not() = True
str(True) = "True"
min("True") = "T"
ord("T") = 84
sum(range(84)) = 3486
char(3486) = "ඞ"
```
very sus indeed
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yoochan
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2024-09-19 08:28:28
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oulala
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dogelition
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2024-09-19 08:30:36
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source https://x.com/chordbug/status/1834642829919781369
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spider-mario
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2024-09-19 08:36:01
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(`sum(range(N)) = N * (N - 1) // 2`)
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BabylonAS
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2024-09-19 09:52:32
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This reminds me that I haven't updated Python in quite a while
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2024-09-19 09:52:42
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my laptop still has 3.10.x
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DZgas Ж
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2024-09-19 03:11:34
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uh oh <:H264_AVC:805854162079842314> so squeezed out
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1222590847091081292/1286342198794911886/The_Nothingness_by_DZgas.mp4?ex=66ed8f07&is=66ec3d87&hm=4726b82220987750d5205bab61ceae240fdbf1c9a3cf8377619bec11bd909053&
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frep
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DZgas Ж
uh oh <:H264_AVC:805854162079842314> so squeezed out
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1222590847091081292/1286342198794911886/The_Nothingness_by_DZgas.mp4?ex=66ed8f07&is=66ec3d87&hm=4726b82220987750d5205bab61ceae240fdbf1c9a3cf8377619bec11bd909053&
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2024-09-19 05:41:51
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need moar bits, use placebo preset, add holy water to watercooling solution to improve quality
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DZgas Ж
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frep
need moar bits, use placebo preset, add holy water to watercooling solution to improve quality
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2024-09-19 05:44:15
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<:kekw:808717074305122316>
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frep
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2024-09-19 05:44:27
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cute btw.
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DZgas Ж
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2024-09-19 05:44:38
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<:Hypers:808826266060193874> 👍
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jonnyawsom3
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2024-09-19 05:52:38
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<:PepeGlasses:878298516965982308>
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DZgas Ж
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derberg
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2024-09-20 05:32:23
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Artist doing artist things
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2024-09-20 05:33:32
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I like this frame
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A homosapien
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2024-09-20 05:49:09
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Ah, Murder Drones is cool, I'm not surprised to see spicy fanart. The fandom behind it is kinda wild.
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2024-09-20 05:51:44
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It's probably wishful thinking, but I hope Liam continues to work on his previous series now that Murder Drones is over.
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frep
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2024-09-20 11:20:46
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I'm so out-of-touch regarding Murder Drones I wasn't even aware it was over
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A homosapien
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2024-09-20 11:24:05
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Yeah it ended like three weeks ago
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CrushedAsian255
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2024-09-20 11:26:08
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what is that?
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frep
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CrushedAsian255
what is that?
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2024-09-20 11:27:13
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a show about sentient(?) killer robots roaming the earth, some of them don't kill for whatever reason i forgor, wacky hijinks ensue
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2024-09-20 11:28:00
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ngl it's been so long since i've seen it that the synopsis i just gave is probably useless lmfao
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A homosapien
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2024-09-20 11:29:57
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It's a free animated show on YouTube, the writing is rough but it has a personality to it
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frep
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2024-09-20 11:31:39
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typing "murder drones" into the YouTube search bar, second suggestion is "murder drones uzi". gooners /j
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A homosapien
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2024-09-20 11:47:46
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The fandom do be freaky though
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2024-09-20 11:48:21
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All this hubbub for humanoid robots of all things
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CrushedAsian255
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2024-09-20 12:59:54
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https://youtu.be/MGt25mv4-2Q?si=ohHMQCSDrCS2Flxy
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frep
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A homosapien
All this hubbub for humanoid robots of all things
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2024-09-20 04:14:10
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no kinkshaming in the JPEG XL discord ty sir 😇 <:kekw:808717074305122316>
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CrushedAsian255
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frep
no kinkshaming in the JPEG XL discord ty sir 😇 <:kekw:808717074305122316>
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2024-09-20 11:18:13
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New <#808692065076379699>
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username
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2024-09-21 12:37:50
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what about minkshaming? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a0/American_Mink.jpg
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CrushedAsian255
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2024-09-21 01:07:12
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https://tenor.com/view/smh-shake-my-head-disappointed-gif-8078241277997863424
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2024-09-21 01:07:50
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2024-09-21 01:07:59
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https://tenor.com/view/spam-spam-intensifies-yum-gif-13948300
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Demiurge
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2024-09-21 05:03:58
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Even mink-shaming?
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AccessViolation_
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frep
no kinkshaming in the JPEG XL discord ty sir 😇 <:kekw:808717074305122316>
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2024-09-21 03:33:51
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We just have to respect that some people yearn for that robussy 🙂
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frep
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AccessViolation_
We just have to respect that some people yearn for that robussy 🙂
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2024-09-21 08:38:42
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That robotalia... I'm sorry
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2024-09-21 08:39:57
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also love the rustacian bio
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AccessViolation_
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DZgas Ж
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2024-09-22 07:52:40
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```
_~ ` .
__.. -~+-_##___+#* -._
#~_ _____#####__ . ``_,#
_,.~^######^*` __######=__.+*` ]
##+____.~+*`**###==#**` `]##
`, `*#=__ _,-+*``*+~__,=+*`` }, _=
# } **==____-=**`] ]}_##=_,
\,_ ) , ]` _##^*` }
} `*=._ } , ,__-~*` , {
] } `*~,_ # __.=*#` [ [
=_ ` `*]^*` ] # __.=]
# `+\_ } , _,~{*` ]
`, ] *=#_ # __#=*` ] ]
*._ `*=,}_,~+*` # _,=*
`^}_ [ `, ] _-+*`
`+,] # _,=*`
`=_ } _,=*`
`=#=+`
```
pow
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2024-09-22 07:53:11
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```
_=
_#`{#_
#* # `#_
_[__ # _]#_
_#?[``**##*` #*=
=* [ =*#`#_ ], #_
_# [_* ] `#_} _#_
_#`{`*+##__ ], __]##``#*#_
_* } _#`} ``*##*` #`*,`\ *=
#_ ##` # _=* #*#_ [ *#_-#*
`**=#__ #=* # *#__=^*`
``*#~___ # _,=*`
``*^*`
```
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2024-09-22 07:53:21
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```
_,##*=__
__#*` # `*^=_
__#*` # #~_
_=*` # `*#_,
``*#=__ # __,#^*`
_ `**=~__ # ___=#*__ #
# ##=__ `*#*`__=##{# #_
_,=^*# # # # ][#`__## #`*=~__
#*#~_`*##__ # # )##*`__=^* .=^*#
*^=__*^=__`*#~__# __=^*`_,#*__,#*`
`*=~_`*#~_`***`__=^*__=^*`
`*^=__*^=#*`_,#*`
`*##=^*`
```
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spider-mario
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2024-09-22 10:35:10
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> Dutch spoken in the Netherlands uses a lot of hard attack, while the Dutch spoken in Belgium goes to such lengths to avoid hard attack that short sentences can start to sound like one long word.
does that sound accurate?
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2024-09-22 10:35:14
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(comment on https://youtu.be/KFZZI7HCp2M)
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_wb_
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2024-09-22 11:13:40
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In general, Belgian Dutch is softer (more French-like) while in the Netherlands it is harsher (more German-like). It is most noticeable in the g consonant, which in the Netherlands is often /x/ while in Belgium it is /ɣ/.
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Meow
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2024-09-23 07:02:40
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Cantonese often sounds rude for other Chinese dialects speakers
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CrushedAsian255
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Meow
Cantonese often sounds rude for other Chinese dialects speakers
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2024-09-23 07:02:56
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Which dialect do you use?
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Meow
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2024-09-23 07:04:11
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Mandarin every day but my families are with Hakka and Hokkien dialects
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2024-09-23 03:36:33
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It depends regionally
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2024-09-23 03:36:57
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The more southeast, the more gentle
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2024-09-23 03:38:05
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Thus Mandarin in Taiwan sounds "girly" for mainland China
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DZgas Ж
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2024-09-23 10:26:52
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<:monkaMega:809252622900789269> mpv life in 2086
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2024-09-23 10:29:52
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https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/wiki/GPU-Next-vs-GPU
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A homosapien
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2024-09-23 11:04:18
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I skimmed the spec of H.274, it's seems to be a successor to the H.273 standard, which defines CICP values for video codecs like AV1. New videos codecs like H.266 (and maybe AV2) will use this newer standard for HDR & Wide Color Gamut.
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DZgas Ж
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A homosapien
I skimmed the spec of H.274, it's seems to be a successor to the H.273 standard, which defines CICP values for video codecs like AV1. New videos codecs like H.266 (and maybe AV2) will use this newer standard for HDR & Wide Color Gamut.
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2024-09-23 11:37:36
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<:monkaMega:809252622900789269>
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2024-09-23 11:40:38
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the real
AV1 has a noise generation standard on top of the picture for film compression,
H.274 this is the 2023 standard for the same
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2024-09-24 10:03:52
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*Compression by description: Instead of trying to save an image in pixel format, you can simply describe it in words. For example, "a blue square in the center surrounded by a red circle." <:galaxybrain:821831336372338729> *
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_wb_
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2024-09-24 10:26:25
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as a result, 10 months later, based on my own small developments, I decided to take the RLE algorithm as a basis to create a compression algorithm that would be as simple as possible to decode, from numbers to paper into checkered notebook.
removing the original ideas and the huffman tree.
1-17221-215131113-164244112-15122431221-15332312212-12641312211-12232226121-11525123122-104412211111122-10211-101111122-10211-1011142-10412223422-11421232332-12312322242-123118142-1339242-143331152-1548141-2412132-1941118-1641621-1881222-185121213-182412222-182712111-182412241-172322332-152422233-152832113-133642212-15-10322174561254591231116121512342221221518349724131141-10141172-16782-142436112-15142827191139253-103-10262321143927131847234314127623-22622-19239191-105389131273814132-1011482412188-2013-1013626-20121-271413151-1718151-171413141-182223222-18636-19535-201214212-2044212-201124212-201124211-2021245-19464-19464-18564-182126212-172126212-1756212-1756212-1747212-1747212-17475-17474-19374-19374-19373-2037314-1537323-15373-20463-20364-201125212-1945122-19446-182124122-191223213-19535-20535-211-333
there are 643 letters here, but if translate them into the 3-bit system, then about 214.3 bytes come out. + - (and since I'm using 9 digits and no 8 in this case, I'm only giving an approximate answer. there is no problem in using only 8 digits in the algorithm)
png bruteforce gives 413 bytes
cjxl -d 0 -g 3 -e 10 -I 100 --patches 1 Compressed to 253 bytes
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2024-09-24 10:26:32
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The algorithm itself is very simple. a number means the number of pixels painted black (always starts with black (so the first pixel is always black)), the Next number is how many pixels should be painted white, and so on alternating. The width of the image should be written externally, in this case 33 pixels wide
symbol "-" means that the next 2 digit are a one number. (Also there are specific numbers for the image more it is _000_ for very long sequences. But I haven't to do it that yet.)
Algometrically what I do is this: STRESS -> NLmeans -> adaptive threshold
In the STRESS processing step, the image gets crisp gradients and lines.
I create 6 images with different levels of NLmeans blur.
Then I take the finished image and look, for example, if it is "-24". are there no pixels within that sequence that could be written as 969 - this doesn't compress the image, but adds detail without loss of compression, as the information is the same size.
Then I do a second pass, for characters like 11111 I look to see if any of the NLmeans smoothed image variants had variants like 1311 - this is already compressed directly.
Calculating the image like 32x64 takes about 1 minute. Because it going brute all the possible best options.
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DZgas Ж
optipng -- 286 bytes
jxl -e 10 -- 206 bytes
1 bit bmp paq8px -- 158 bytes
jbig2 -- 279 bytes
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2024-09-24 10:45:39
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1-743615535313135353543513142-917131313171-11131314131515544353535615351315151-11171713131515131534535357135354173_151_53534543445353531314131313131313171313171717131453535317131344441133581313131313171313171713131315431313454344531753131_224_4312141713131313535353571411151721232213131313131313131714261711111311111313135313135412141115171313122313131712141215441214531313131353173113131_223_531313131313131313131353544615131313131111141115111716151-10151314111411111517171716371513141114111114111616181-916155516111413151553534
real base 8 for compression. If replace the special symbol with a double octal digit, the size will be 176.875 bytes.
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2024-09-24 10:49:08
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of course, in the case of this image, no optimizations are possible, this is just a clean way to use RLE with the specified digit size set. And it even seems strange to me that such a size is received.
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2024-09-24 10:52:18
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In fact, I do not even know if there is any document that discusses the alternating use of black and white for RLE compression. Perhaps somewhere in the archives of 1970
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_wb_
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2024-09-24 11:04:16
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JBIG2 does something like that iirc
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DZgas Ж
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2024-09-24 11:09:47
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But it is 30% worse... hmm <:Thonk:805904896879493180>
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2024-09-24 11:11:42
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Perhaps, as algorithm, it was designed for a much higher image height/width.
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A homosapien
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DZgas Ж
as a result, 10 months later, based on my own small developments, I decided to take the RLE algorithm as a basis to create a compression algorithm that would be as simple as possible to decode, from numbers to paper into checkered notebook.
removing the original ideas and the huffman tree.
1-17221-215131113-164244112-15122431221-15332312212-12641312211-12232226121-11525123122-104412211111122-10211-101111122-10211-1011142-10412223422-11421232332-12312322242-123118142-1339242-143331152-1548141-2412132-1941118-1641621-1881222-185121213-182412222-182712111-182412241-172322332-152422233-152832113-133642212-15-10322174561254591231116121512342221221518349724131141-10141172-16782-142436112-15142827191139253-103-10262321143927131847234314127623-22622-19239191-105389131273814132-1011482412188-2013-1013626-20121-271413151-1718151-171413141-182223222-18636-19535-201214212-2044212-201124212-201124211-2021245-19464-19464-18564-182126212-172126212-1756212-1756212-1747212-1747212-17475-17474-19374-19374-19373-2037314-1537323-15373-20463-20364-201125212-1945122-19446-182124122-191223213-19535-20535-211-333
there are 643 letters here, but if translate them into the 3-bit system, then about 214.3 bytes come out. + - (and since I'm using 9 digits and no 8 in this case, I'm only giving an approximate answer. there is no problem in using only 8 digits in the algorithm)
png bruteforce gives 413 bytes
cjxl -d 0 -g 3 -e 10 -I 100 --patches 1 Compressed to 253 bytes
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2024-09-24 11:24:36
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I did my own png bruteforce and got 384 bytes
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DZgas Ж
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Fox Wizard
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2024-09-25 04:57:25
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1 byte smaller than my result <:KekDog:884736660376535040>
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2024-09-25 04:58:11
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Never mind, got the same with changing some params
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Demiurge
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2024-09-26 03:55:34
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I'm typing on typeracer (dark mode) as a guest to test my typing speed... The words I type show up as green (I think). My eyes keep hallucinating and thinking the text is changing color between green and orange and it's distracting as hell.
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2024-09-26 03:56:02
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That particular shade of green that they are using is really confusing to my deuteranomalous eyes.
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2024-09-26 03:56:17
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(I'm green color blind)
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2024-09-26 03:57:51
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Basically my M cones have a very similar response curve to my L cones so my brain mixes red and green up a lot.
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CrushedAsian255
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Demiurge
I'm typing on typeracer (dark mode) as a guest to test my typing speed... The words I type show up as green (I think). My eyes keep hallucinating and thinking the text is changing color between green and orange and it's distracting as hell.
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2024-09-26 03:57:55
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You should be able to change the theme
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Demiurge
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2024-09-26 03:58:13
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Maybe. I never made an account there.
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2024-09-26 03:58:22
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I don't know if it's customizable.
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2024-09-26 03:59:26
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But it's very distracting and weird and annoying to watch my brain and eyes constantly hallucinating the color of the text shifting between red and green, I keep trying to look back and examine the color closer to see if it's red
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2024-09-26 03:59:59
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It's funny how colors are objective, but how they are perceived is subjective.
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CrushedAsian255
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2024-09-26 04:00:05
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Yeah there are differently themes
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Demiurge
It's funny how colors are objective, but how they are perceived is subjective.
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2024-09-26 04:00:16
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Colour theory is really interesting
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Demiurge
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2024-09-26 04:00:42
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Wanna have a typing race?
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Traneptora
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2024-09-26 04:01:51
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I read "race" as a race condition at first <:KEK:1283989161111715913>
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Demiurge
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2024-09-26 04:02:20
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That's how you know you spend way too much time debugging :)
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CrushedAsian255
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2024-09-26 04:53:47
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I’ll start typing as soon as you start
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Demiurge
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2024-09-26 05:09:39
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https://play.typeracer.com?rt=2kno2u6ypq
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2024-09-26 05:12:20
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It's kind of addictive.
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2024-09-26 05:12:48
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I'm using Dvorak layout on a laptop.
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2024-09-26 05:14:28
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Sorry, I have no idea how to keep the racetrack going after the first race.
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2024-09-26 05:14:39
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I could send a new link, or one of you could.
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2024-09-26 05:28:23
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Entropy and Downfall? New Half Life games?
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jonnyawsom3
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2024-09-26 06:10:10
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Old Half Life mods. One abandoned, one with a more recent sequel. All using the registry instead of cfg for display settings, so I had to fix all my window positions 3 times thanks to it changing my desktop resolution
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2024-09-26 06:13:26
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This week I finished HL2, EP1, EP2, LostCoast, HL2:DownFall and next up is playing as the combine in Entropy : Zero then Entropy : Zero 2
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2024-09-26 06:14:02
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Still not gotten around to the originial Half Life, but anyway....
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Demiurge
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2024-09-26 07:13:22
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You haven't played the original? What about Black Mesa?
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2024-09-26 07:13:40
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I played hl2 first also
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jonnyawsom3
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2024-09-26 07:16:51
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I started with The orange box on xbox360, but either never fun it or can't remember. Bought Black Mesa, but never got a real play session going before making room for others
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spider-mario
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Demiurge
It's funny how colors are objective, but how they are perceived is subjective.
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2024-09-26 08:21:28
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colours are not objective; light spectra are
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2024-09-26 08:21:47
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colour is perceptual by definition
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_wb_
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2024-09-26 08:24:29
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What still keeps surprising me is how hue is a circular thing while the light frequency spectrum is a linear thing
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2024-09-26 08:30:08
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_of_purples
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yoochan
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2024-09-26 08:50:43
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What I don't understand, is how do you cover such a surface with a triangle ? why no one tried to use 4 primaries in order to have a better coverage in the green/blue region ?
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Traneptora
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yoochan
What I don't understand, is how do you cover such a surface with a triangle ? why no one tried to use 4 primaries in order to have a better coverage in the green/blue region ?
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2024-09-26 08:51:54
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This is based on humans having 3 different cones
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2024-09-26 08:52:45
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Humans having three different types of color receptors in our eyes is why color is always a 3D space, or a 2D projective space if you ignore brightness
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2024-09-26 08:53:03
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It's a highly human-biology-specific model
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2024-09-26 08:54:19
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It's also dependent on wavelengths of visible light. Infrared, for example, just isn't on the chart because we can't see it. UV isn't either.
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CrushedAsian255
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2024-09-26 08:54:20
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RYGB has been tried but the gains were too low to be worth it
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Demiurge
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spider-mario
colours are not objective; light spectra are
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2024-09-26 08:54:22
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That's what I was meaning, yeah.
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yoochan
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Traneptora
It's a highly human-biology-specific model
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2024-09-26 08:55:20
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I see, but in this representation, what would be the optimal position of the triangle vertices ? for which all percievable colors are inside ? is it even possible ?
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Traneptora
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2024-09-26 08:56:00
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Because the gamut of human vision is not a triangle, it is not possible to represent all visible colors with any choice of three primaries
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_wb_
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2024-09-26 08:56:13
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xyY is not a perceptually uniform space, and in these diagrams you only see a projection of it (the full colorspace is a volume)
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Traneptora
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2024-09-26 08:56:18
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the gamut is 2D because brightess is modded out
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CrushedAsian255
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2024-09-26 08:56:37
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quattron
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yoochan
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CrushedAsian255
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quattron
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2024-09-26 08:57:19
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I remember that ! old tech isn't it ?
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CrushedAsian255
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2024-09-26 08:57:32
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Don’t think it took off
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Traneptora
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2024-09-26 08:57:50
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And yea, xyY is chromaticity and lightness
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yoochan
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CrushedAsian255
Don’t think it took off
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2024-09-26 08:58:12
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I remember the ads in japan
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Traneptora
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2024-09-26 08:58:21
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the diagram is just the xy components. Y, or lightness, isn't shown.
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_wb_
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2024-09-26 08:58:53
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rec._2020#/media/File%3ACIExy1931_Rec_2020.svg the Rec2020 primaries are pretty much as wide gamut as you can go with physically possible primaries
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Traneptora
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2024-09-26 09:00:50
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you also realize here that "white" is relative. There's no perfect concept of pure white, so you have to pick one. The most common choice is the color that an object at a temperature of 6500 kelvin would radiate, or D65.
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yoochan
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_wb_
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rec._2020#/media/File%3ACIExy1931_Rec_2020.svg the Rec2020 primaries are pretty much as wide gamut as you can go with physically possible primaries
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2024-09-26 09:00:53
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nice ! and has a screen already been implemented with REC2020 primaries ? And it doesn't tell me why the green is always on the "yellow" side and not more on the "cyan" side...
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Traneptora
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2024-09-26 09:01:22
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Yes, wide gamut screens do exist
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CrushedAsian255
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yoochan
nice ! and has a screen already been implemented with REC2020 primaries ? And it doesn't tell me why the green is always on the "yellow" side and not more on the "cyan" side...
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2024-09-26 09:01:42
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I think because then you would cut off a lot of yellows
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_wb_
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2024-09-26 09:01:42
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Most are not reproducing all of rec2020 though
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Demiurge
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2024-09-26 09:01:58
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I finally understand the color smudge now
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CrushedAsian255
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2024-09-26 09:02:09
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Colourful blob
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Traneptora
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2024-09-26 09:02:10
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And pure green is between yellow and cyan but what you consider to look the most "greenish" is subjective
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CrushedAsian255
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2024-09-26 09:02:42
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Also remember the diagram isn’t fully accurate as it contains colours that your display can’t display
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Traneptora
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2024-09-26 09:03:18
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Yea, the diagram is likely just sRGB and a model
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yoochan
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CrushedAsian255
Also remember the diagram isn’t fully accurate as it contains colours that your display can’t display
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2024-09-26 09:03:18
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indeed
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Traneptora
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2024-09-26 09:05:02
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xyY isn't perceptually uniform but it is convex. Meaning any color that is on the line joining two points can be made by some convex linear combination of those two colors
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CrushedAsian255
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2024-09-26 09:05:32
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Someone should convert that image to JXL with out of gamut colour storage so it displays as accurately as possible on any monitor
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Traneptora
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2024-09-26 09:05:37
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This means any color in a gamut triangle can be formed as a linear combination of the triangle vertices
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CrushedAsian255
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CrushedAsian255
Someone should convert that image to JXL with out of gamut colour storage so it displays as accurately as possible on any monitor
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2024-09-26 09:05:56
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Not convert but more recreate
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_wb_
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2024-09-26 09:06:05
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I suppose the challenging thing is to make OLEDs and filters that are perfectly hitting a spectral primary color without producing/letting through anything else, which makes it less saturated so narrower gamut
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dogelition
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_wb_
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rec._2020#/media/File%3ACIExy1931_Rec_2020.svg the Rec2020 primaries are pretty much as wide gamut as you can go with physically possible primaries
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2024-09-26 09:06:42
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from the paper "UHDTV Image Format for Better Visual Experience":
> We have found that a system colorimetry with RGB monochromatic primaries generated by feasible lasers (equaling 630, 532, 467 nm) can cover the gamut of Recommendation 709, SMPTE RP 431-2 [29], and Adobe RGB [30], as well as more than 99.9% of Pointer’s gamut [31] (Fig. 14) and all but a few of the real object colors in the Standard Object Colour Spectra Database for Colour Reproduction Evaluation (SOCS) [32].
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Traneptora
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CrushedAsian255
Someone should convert that image to JXL with out of gamut colour storage so it displays as accurately as possible on any monitor
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2024-09-26 09:06:48
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That's actually a really cool idea, so with relative intent you can clearly see your workflow gamut
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CrushedAsian255
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2024-09-26 09:07:09
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Iirc can jxl store arbitrarily out of gamut data?
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Traneptora
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2024-09-26 09:07:20
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Anything in float can, yea
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2024-09-26 09:07:46
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XYB is locked to rec709 primaries using out of range values to represent out of gamut
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CrushedAsian255
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2024-09-26 09:07:47
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What is the XYB gamut standard range?
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Traneptora
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2024-09-26 09:07:55
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rec709 or srgb
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2024-09-26 09:07:58
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(these are the same)
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CrushedAsian255
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2024-09-26 09:08:00
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As in numbers
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Traneptora
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2024-09-26 09:08:26
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out of range means below 0.0 or above 1.0
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2024-09-26 09:08:34
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in float terms
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CrushedAsian255
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2024-09-26 09:08:47
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So is gray 0.5,0.5,0.5?
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Traneptora
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2024-09-26 09:09:13
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probably X=0 B=0
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CrushedAsian255
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2024-09-26 09:09:25
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Oh so it’s -0.5 to 0.5 ?
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Traneptora
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2024-09-26 09:09:44
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No, XYB is not RGB
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2024-09-26 09:10:26
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0.5, 0.5, 0.5 would be gray for RGB, but XYB is a bit different
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CrushedAsian255
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2024-09-26 09:10:50
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As in for XYB, is it -0.5 to 0.5
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Traneptora
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2024-09-26 09:10:56
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also no
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Demiurge
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2024-09-26 09:10:57
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So the hue diagram has two edges. The "purple line" and the "spectral curve."
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Traneptora
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2024-09-26 09:11:11
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strictly speaking XYB has no "range" it just has values
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Demiurge
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2024-09-26 09:11:12
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And everything in between is a mix of spectra.
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2024-09-26 09:11:30
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And the green side is really deep because of our sensitivity to green.
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CrushedAsian255
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Traneptora
strictly speaking XYB has no "range" it just has values
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2024-09-26 09:11:35
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So it’s just distances from gray in some arbitrary scale?
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Traneptora
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2024-09-26 09:11:48
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XYB is just RGB with a transform applied to it. it's easier to think about color in RGB
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2024-09-26 09:12:05
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think about it this way:
once you define primaries in the xyY space, you get a triangle which represents your Gamut
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2024-09-26 09:12:24
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any color in that gamut can be produced by a **convex** linear combination of those primaries
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2024-09-26 09:12:45
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a **convex** linear combination is one where the coefficients are all nonnegative, and sum to 1
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Demiurge
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Traneptora
XYB is just RGB with a transform applied to it. it's easier to think about color in RGB
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2024-09-26 09:12:50
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Is there a difference between rgb and lms?
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Traneptora
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2024-09-26 09:13:17
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so `a*R + b*G + c*B`, where `a, b, c >=0`, and `a + b + c = 1`
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Demiurge
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2024-09-26 09:13:23
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Also since green is subjective doesn't that cause a ton of problems?
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CrushedAsian255
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2024-09-26 09:13:26
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<@794205442175402004> colour science seems to come up a lot, maybe a channel should be made for it
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Traneptora
so `a*R + b*G + c*B`, where `a, b, c >=0`, and `a + b + c = 1`
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2024-09-26 09:13:40
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So just a normalised vector
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2024-09-26 09:13:45
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?
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Traneptora
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2024-09-26 09:13:54
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yea, that's one way to think about it. the weights are a normalized vector
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2024-09-26 09:14:41
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these "weights" are the red, green, and blue components between 0.0 and 1.0
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dogelition
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Demiurge
Is there a difference between rgb and lms?
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2024-09-26 09:15:11
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i think RGB can refer to any 3 primaries, LMS is specifically cone excitation, and XYZ is a linear transformation of LMS
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Traneptora
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2024-09-26 09:15:37
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if the weights are all clamped between 0.0 and 1.0, you end up with some sort of combination of the primaries
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_wb_
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CrushedAsian255
<@794205442175402004> colour science seems to come up a lot, maybe a channel should be made for it
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2024-09-26 09:16:09
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Created <#1288790874016190505>
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Traneptora
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2024-09-26 09:16:15
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if the sum of the components is less than 1.0, you end up with a darker color. if the sum of the weights is greater than 1.0, you end up with a lighter color. but in either case, it's a darker or lighter version of the same color
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2024-09-26 09:16:29
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however, if you remove the clamp on the weights between 0 and 1 you can produce colors that aren't in the trianagle
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2024-09-26 09:17:03
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so if you have say, floating point RGB in the sRGB space, you can represent every color in sRGB with r, g, and b components between 0.0 and 1.0
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2024-09-26 09:17:14
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but if you allow out of [0, 1] values, you can represent any color
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CrushedAsian255
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2024-09-26 09:17:18
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Let’s move this to the new <#1288790874016190505>
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Demiurge
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dogelition
i think RGB can refer to any 3 primaries, LMS is specifically cone excitation, and XYZ is a linear transformation of LMS
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2024-09-26 10:10:41
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different people have different cones with different spectral response curves though, thhat are impossible to know ahead of time or customize per viewer, so it doesn't strike me as very useful to define color like that.
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2024-09-26 10:11:15
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for a graphics format
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dogelition
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Demiurge
different people have different cones with different spectral response curves though, thhat are impossible to know ahead of time or customize per viewer, so it doesn't strike me as very useful to define color like that.
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2024-09-26 10:33:54
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yeah, XYZ is defined based on color matching experiments done back in 1931, and those results certainly aren't a perfect average of the general population, as a few improved color matching functions have been developed since then
but those 1931 values are still what all the color space standards are based on
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Demiurge
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2024-09-26 10:37:41
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That sounds good enough then I guess
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dogelition
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2024-09-26 10:37:46
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the inconsistencies between the standards and individual perception ("metameric failure") also have some interesting side effects
e.g. iphones (using OLED screens) are accurately calibrated to the "d65" white point (as defined by e.g. sRGB), but white on those visually looks off compared to a calibrated LCD
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2024-09-26 10:37:58
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and apple apparently doesn't give you any option to adjust the white point
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CrushedAsian255
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2024-09-26 10:39:04
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They have that True Tone thing
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dogelition
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2024-09-26 10:40:12
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in hollywood, afaik the most common practice is to use the exact primaries defined by the standards when calibrating a display, but have the white point be adjusted manually so that it's a perceptual match to a narrow gamut (= wide spectral power distribution) lcd screen (for the colorist's eyes)
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dogelition
the inconsistencies between the standards and individual perception ("metameric failure") also have some interesting side effects
e.g. iphones (using OLED screens) are accurately calibrated to the "d65" white point (as defined by e.g. sRGB), but white on those visually looks off compared to a calibrated LCD
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2024-09-26 10:43:23
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see <https://www.xda-developers.com/apple-iphone-14-pro-max-display-review/#metameric-failure> for a more detailed explanation
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spider-mario
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yoochan
What I don't understand, is how do you cover such a surface with a triangle ? why no one tried to use 4 primaries in order to have a better coverage in the green/blue region ?
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2024-09-26 12:27:11
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6 primaries has been proposed (and possibly tried), iirc
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2024-09-26 12:28:25
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one advantage, from what I understand (take this with a pinch of salt as I may have misunderstood), is that it lets you achieve wide gamuts with less narrow primaries, which might reduce the risk of observer metameric failure
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2024-09-26 12:32:11
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https://opg.optica.org/oe/fulltext.cfm?uri=oe-29-26-43885&id=466078
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yoochan
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spider-mario
6 primaries has been proposed (and possibly tried), iirc
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2024-09-26 02:30:20
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classe !
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spider-mario
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2024-09-26 02:57:08
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https://github.com/WinampDesktop/winamp/issues/220
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2024-09-26 08:25:28
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https://www.evilsocket.net/2024/09/26/Attacking-UNIX-systems-via-CUPS-Part-I/
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w
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2024-09-26 08:28:34
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looks like it's as bad as the yubikey getting hacked
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Quackdoc
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2024-09-26 08:51:06
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cups gonna see me pee <:SadCheems:890866831047417898>
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spider-mario
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2024-09-26 10:04:36
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https://github.com/WinampDesktop/winamp/issues/265
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2024-09-26 10:04:38
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“oops”
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Quackdoc
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2024-09-26 10:13:25
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This whole debacle has been so funny.
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username
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2024-09-28 01:28:08
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context for below https://discord.com/channels/794206087879852103/803574970180829194/1289577669087854633
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Demiurge
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2024-09-28 01:29:50
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If I thought someone was sincerely a fascist troll I would say, "This guy advocates for racial hygiene" or "This guy does nothing but rage bait and provoke drama" or something because the word "fascist" is thrown around so cheaply.
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CrushedAsian255
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2024-09-28 01:30:41
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What does fascism mean
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Demiurge
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2024-09-28 01:31:34
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I think it means that the state owns everything and corporations own the state. So basically like the USA?
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2024-09-28 01:32:02
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I think there's a lot of boot licking too. So basically like the USA.
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2024-09-28 01:33:40
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I'm not sure of the exact definition, but I was told it has a specific meaning in political theory. Political theory is the theory of how to waste your life, so I try to avoid it these days.
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damian101
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CrushedAsian255
What does fascism mean
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2024-09-28 01:38:10
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In the modern definition, basically blood-and-soil ultra-nationalism.
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2024-09-28 01:38:36
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Original fascists were not strictly racists, though, which is why I don't like that definition...
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drkt
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2024-09-28 01:38:37
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> Every system of government ever invented is the same exact thing in my eyes.
one side wants to kill you and stripmine your corpse
the other side wants to tax rich people a little bit
yea same thing man
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Demiurge
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2024-09-28 01:39:16
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How do you know they both don't want to kill you and stripmine your corpse
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drkt
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2024-09-28 01:39:39
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because only one side ever did
are you 16 years old?
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Demiurge
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2024-09-28 01:39:50
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they always say they're doing you a favor while the cave your head in
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2024-09-28 01:39:55
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Keeping you safe and all
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CrushedAsian255
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2024-09-28 01:39:59
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One wants to kill you for money, the other wants to kill you for saying anything bad about their glorious country
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2024-09-28 01:40:27
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The USA is both
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drkt
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2024-09-28 01:40:41
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Do you perchance live in a country that only has one ruling party?
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Demiurge
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2024-09-28 01:40:59
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Nah, the USA you're allowed to say whatever you want at least...
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CrushedAsian255
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drkt
Do you perchance live in a country that only has one ruling party?
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2024-09-28 01:41:33
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I’m Aussie 🇦🇺
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Demiurge
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2024-09-28 01:41:35
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And that's a good thing
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2024-09-28 01:42:14
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But, stepping back, it really just looks like humans have been organizing themselves the same exact way for forever.
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CrushedAsian255
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2024-09-28 01:42:15
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Legally you can but someone’s gonna get mad at you for saying “USA sucks”
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drkt
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Demiurge
Nah, the USA you're allowed to say whatever you want at least...
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2024-09-28 01:43:13
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white people maybe
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Demiurge
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CrushedAsian255
Legally you can but someone’s gonna get mad at you for saying “USA sucks”
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2024-09-28 01:43:37
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Well, exactly. Because the brainwashing is working really well here. With an extremely sheltered and dumbed down population and the worst education for a modern country.
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2024-09-28 01:44:00
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They don't really need to keep such a tight leash here because the other control schemes are so effective
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CrushedAsian255
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2024-09-28 01:44:11
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Just wondering are you from US?
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Demiurge
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2024-09-28 01:44:19
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I'm from the US
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CrushedAsian255
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2024-09-28 01:44:37
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Hope your country gets better
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Demiurge
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drkt
white people maybe
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2024-09-28 01:47:07
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The cops actually ARE crazy racist in most places too, from what I've seen. I don't look like a minority so for the longest time I was completely unaware of how bad the cops are.
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2024-09-28 01:47:51
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But I think wanting to become a cop and choosing that as a career choice is probably a red flag to begin with.
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CrushedAsian255
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2024-09-28 01:49:41
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Are you ACAB?
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Demiurge
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2024-09-28 01:50:17
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You'd have to be either encouraged to go that route, or choose it on your own because you just like the idea of authority or being righteous. Or maybe just like beating people up.
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CrushedAsian255
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2024-09-28 01:50:48
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If you like beating people up join an airline
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Demiurge
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2024-09-28 01:52:00
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Yeah lol. I wouldn't go as far as ACAB since I like to keep an open mind and judge people on a case by case basis, but I see it as a huge serious red flag these days.
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2024-09-28 01:54:10
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Anyways, the bottom line I wanna convey about government, is that the sooner people realize they've been conned, the sooner you can cut your losses and stop giving it any more of your precious power and energy.
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drkt
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Demiurge
The cops actually ARE crazy racist in most places too, from what I've seen. I don't look like a minority so for the longest time I was completely unaware of how bad the cops are.
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2024-09-28 01:54:11
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Yes police force are the violent arm of politicians
As long as politicians aren't reeling them in, they are complicit but why would a person in power reel in their own authority?
If you actually studied political theory you'd know why we don't have socialism today (your daily hint is that it's not because it doesn't work)
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Demiurge
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drkt
Yes police force are the violent arm of politicians
As long as politicians aren't reeling them in, they are complicit but why would a person in power reel in their own authority?
If you actually studied political theory you'd know why we don't have socialism today (your daily hint is that it's not because it doesn't work)
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2024-09-28 01:59:03
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"Police" comes from the same root word as "policy" and "politician"
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2024-09-28 01:59:22
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It has nothing to do with "keeping the peace" and everything to do with policy enforcement.
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Cacodemon345
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2024-09-28 01:59:28
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Socialism decays and degrades to state capitalism.
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drkt
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Cacodemon345
Socialism decays and degrades to state capitalism.
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2024-09-28 01:59:46
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whos fault is that
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Cacodemon345
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2024-09-28 02:00:00
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The state's.
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drkt
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2024-09-28 02:00:05
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Which state
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Demiurge
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2024-09-28 02:00:09
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Economics is a subtle thing that most people don't have a realistic view on, and there are real, logical economic reasons why people do the things they do and what those consequences are... A dictator who doesn't understand the economic forces at play will quickly cause his people to starve, regardless of how much merit they think they have.
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Cacodemon345
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drkt
Which state
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2024-09-28 02:00:38
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Both USSR and China?
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drkt
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2024-09-28 02:00:45
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I'm fucking laughing
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CrushedAsian255
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2024-09-28 02:01:03
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Politics is a mess, glad I’m just studying image formats
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Cacodemon345
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2024-09-28 02:01:04
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Government controlling the economy makes it state capitalism eventually.
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CrushedAsian255
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2024-09-28 02:01:23
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Whenever people have power, corruption is pretty much inevitable
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Demiurge
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2024-09-28 02:03:46
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I don't really want to get into a deep talk about it, but suffice to say that there are good, logical reasons behind why people trade the way they do. It's not whether we should be socialist or capitalist. It's... who controls it all?
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2024-09-28 02:04:45
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There's a central point of control and the central bank is literally in the business of printing money and giving it to themselves and their friends.
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2024-09-28 02:05:01
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That's what's actually the problem.
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drkt
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Demiurge
There's a central point of control and the central bank is literally in the business of printing money and giving it to themselves and their friends.
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2024-09-28 02:05:50
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You're on the right path
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Demiurge
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2024-09-28 02:06:32
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The whole point is just being in control of it all and being able to manufacture consent and legitimacy because people believe in it. Because they don't want to admit that it's illegitimate and that they got conned.
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2024-09-28 02:06:48
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It's hard to admit you were conned because you already sank so much of your life and energy into the con.
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Cacodemon345
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2024-09-28 02:06:50
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The alternative to central banks would be the rich just controlling gold mines and enriching themselves.
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Demiurge
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2024-09-28 02:06:55
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It's called the sunk cost fallacy.
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2024-09-28 02:07:24
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People believe their slavery is essential
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drkt
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2024-09-28 02:08:10
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The alternative is we stop assuming a global economy is some vital essential necessity and accept that iPhones aren't worth the societal cost they inflict in the form of the global marketplace required to manufacture them
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Demiurge
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Cacodemon345
The alternative to central banks would be the rich just controlling gold mines and enriching themselves.
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2024-09-28 02:08:24
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So instead the central bank is enriching themselves. How is that better? The whole point of the central bank, like everything else, is to make it easier to consolidate and concentrate power in one place.
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2024-09-28 02:08:44
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Everything is done with that goal, whenever it comes to control freaks
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2024-09-28 02:09:21
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that's why every crazy megalomaniac wants to conquer the world and rule the planet
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2024-09-28 02:09:30
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Everything under a single point of control.
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2024-09-28 02:09:40
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They all think and do the same thing
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2024-09-28 02:10:13
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Humans never change over tens of thousands of years
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2024-09-28 02:10:40
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Control freaks using their charisma to manufacture consent and legitimacy
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2024-09-28 02:11:03
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Most people believe they consented to a social contract before they were born somehow. That's like believing in the Easter Bunny.
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2024-09-28 02:11:50
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Dumb stories like that are told to build this illusion of legitimacy around the people who have the right to rule
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2024-09-28 02:12:18
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There are lots of stupid psychological games to achieve that. That's why it's a con game.
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2024-09-28 02:13:07
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Like all scams, the sooner you realize you've been conned the less damage it can do.
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Cacodemon345
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Demiurge
that's why every crazy megalomaniac wants to conquer the world and rule the planet
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2024-09-28 02:13:56
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This line of reasoning assumes that every king and emperors in the past were interested in enriching themselves and exploiting their subjects which is not how it works at all.
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Demiurge
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2024-09-28 02:14:52
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It's pretty rare when that wasn't the case. I hear the story of the rare wise king that acts differently but that's an exceptional case if that happens.
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2024-09-28 02:17:42
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Most of the time the king isn't isolated and able to act alone. Usually it's a bunch of rich nobles and burgomeisters screwing over the common folk and designing tax laws to make it impossible for the poor to become rich. Like the USA :D
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Cacodemon345
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2024-09-28 02:18:47
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Republics are pretty different.
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Demiurge
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2024-09-28 02:19:03
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Are they? It's just different names for the same thing.
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2024-09-28 02:19:18
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At the end of the day, the rich stay rich, the poor get even poorer.
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2024-09-28 02:19:30
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And you do what we tell you or die.
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Cacodemon345
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2024-09-28 02:19:41
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If they were the same thing the French wouldn't need to establish republics.
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Demiurge
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2024-09-28 02:19:46
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Same shit different flag
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Cacodemon345
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2024-09-28 02:20:34
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And the average person aren't going to willingly harm themselves for the rich.
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Demiurge
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2024-09-28 02:20:34
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How often do revolutions like that actually result in it getting better instead of worse?
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2024-09-28 02:21:06
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You're just changing who gets to hold the leash
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Cacodemon345
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2024-09-28 02:21:50
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There's two types of revolutions, one that is very grassroots oriented, and one that relies solely on leaders to lead them.
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2024-09-28 02:22:08
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Bangladesh ended up with the latter twice.
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2024-09-28 02:22:39
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First with the death of British India, second with the breakup of Pakistan.
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Demiurge
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2024-09-28 02:22:52
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If you are waiting for the government to give you the freedom you're expecting to have... You'll be waiting a long time.
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2024-09-28 02:23:34
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Freedom doesn't come from the capital or senate building or whatever. That only exists to serve those who serve themselves.
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spider-mario
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2024-09-28 02:23:35
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to get an idea of that “Lunduke” guy, see e.g. https://lunduke.locals.com/post/5818858/elementary-os-asahi-linux-declare-war-on-right-wing-nerds where he makes a point of misgendering trans people and calls transsexuality a “sexual fetish”
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2024-09-28 02:23:43
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I do like this parody of him: https://x.com/bryanlunduke
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Demiurge
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2024-09-28 02:24:55
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You'll get your freedom on the day you realize you were always free.
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CrushedAsian255
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spider-mario
to get an idea of that “Lunduke” guy, see e.g. https://lunduke.locals.com/post/5818858/elementary-os-asahi-linux-declare-war-on-right-wing-nerds where he makes a point of misgendering trans people and calls transsexuality a “sexual fetish”
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2024-09-28 02:25:05
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What’s a trans people?
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spider-mario
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2024-09-28 02:25:22
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he misgenders people who are trans
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CrushedAsian255
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spider-mario
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2024-09-28 02:26:43
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people whose gender identity doesn’t match the gender that was assigned to them at birth
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2024-09-28 02:26:52
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he refers to them by the latter
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2024-09-28 02:26:59
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throughout the post
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CrushedAsian255
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2024-09-28 02:27:44
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Is it like calling a gay person straight
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2024-09-28 02:27:52
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Sorry I don’t really keep up with this kind of thing
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Demiurge
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spider-mario
he misgenders people who are trans
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2024-09-28 02:30:24
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Well you could say he's an "opinionated rabble-rousing drama man who frequently blogs about the trans agenda" or something and that would sound way more appropriate and informative I think... Just saying "fascist" I don't think is helpful.
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2024-09-28 02:31:30
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Not saying I personally would describe him that way, but I'm just giving an example lol :)
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CrushedAsian255
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2024-09-28 02:31:59
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Definitely more descriptive
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Demiurge
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2024-09-28 02:32:57
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I know a lot of people with crazy political beliefs from all sides of the spectrum and I think I get along with all of them real well since I think it's all equally a waste of time
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Cacodemon345
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Demiurge
You'll get your freedom on the day you realize you were always free.
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2024-09-28 02:33:23
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This kind of mentality will lead the entire humanity into a Mad Max situation.
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Demiurge
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2024-09-28 02:33:28
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I know most people are well intentioned too, and that's an important thing people forget
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CrushedAsian255
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Demiurge
I know a lot of people with crazy political beliefs from all sides of the spectrum and I think I get along with all of them real well since I think it's all equally a waste of time
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2024-09-28 02:33:39
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Based
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Demiurge
I know most people are well intentioned too, and that's an important thing people forget
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2024-09-28 02:34:00
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WP:AGF ?
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Demiurge
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Cacodemon345
This kind of mentality will lead the entire humanity into a Mad Max situation.
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2024-09-28 02:34:03
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Like I said... You can't be given freedom. You have to realize you've always been free.
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CrushedAsian255
WP:AGF ?
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2024-09-28 02:35:20
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Yeah, kinda. I mean, people will say something that sounds offensive and rude without realizing sometimes, out of concern and love even, and that part gets missed entirely because what they said was offensive.
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2024-09-28 02:35:53
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But that's obviously not always the case. Some people genuinely hate themselves and want people who they feel are unworthy to die. Including themselves.
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CrushedAsian255
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Demiurge
Yeah, kinda. I mean, people will say something that sounds offensive and rude without realizing sometimes, out of concern and love even, and that part gets missed entirely because what they said was offensive.
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2024-09-28 02:35:58
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Also it’s really hard to indicate tones or voice over text
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2024-09-28 02:36:18
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So miscommunication is extra common through the internet
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Demiurge
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2024-09-28 02:36:50
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I've questioned some fucked up people before and some people think themselves and most of the human race unworthy. Eugenics people are like that. It's really bad.
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CrushedAsian255
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2024-09-28 02:37:03
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Compound that with the ability to be anonymous and sometimes people don’t think before they type (or just want to watch the world burn)
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Demiurge
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2024-09-28 02:37:24
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I even say, "So by your own ideology you would be killed also. And you're okay with that? You deserve to die?" And they affirm this.
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2024-09-28 02:37:40
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It's a mentally ill belief system
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CrushedAsian255
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2024-09-28 02:37:41
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Tbh sounds like minor mental health issue
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Demiurge
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2024-09-28 02:38:07
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People who sincerely believe in racial purity kinda have to hate themselves and have a mental health issue.
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2024-09-28 02:38:14
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:/
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2024-09-28 02:38:19
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It's a sad thing to talk about
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2024-09-28 02:40:29
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There's a lot of reasons to be discontent with the world but some of these solutions are stupider than the problem, you know.
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2024-09-28 02:40:42
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That's why revolution usually does not result in improvement
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2024-09-28 02:41:21
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I believe that improvement can only happen when a change happens in the collective consciousness
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CrushedAsian255
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Demiurge
That's why revolution usually does not result in improvement
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2024-09-28 02:41:30
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Hey, CDs and hard drives are nice and they needed a lot of revolutions
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2024-09-28 02:41:55
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5400 per minute to be specific
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Demiurge
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2024-09-28 02:42:03
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7200 rpm supremacy
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Cacodemon345
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CrushedAsian255
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2024-09-28 02:42:10
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SSD supremacy
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Cacodemon345
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2024-09-28 02:42:27
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NVMe SSD supremacy.
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CrushedAsian255
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2024-09-28 02:42:37
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Punched card supremacy
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Demiurge
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2024-09-28 02:42:42
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People need to realize what freedom is :(
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2024-09-28 02:42:54
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And realize that it's always been a part of them
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2024-09-28 02:43:14
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It's not something that happens outside of them
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Cacodemon345
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2024-09-28 02:43:18
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Japanese does what freedom is even with their laissez-faire capitalism.
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Demiurge
People need to realize what freedom is :(
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2024-09-28 02:49:06
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Freedom within limits as self contradictory as it will seem will always remain a thing.
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2024-09-28 02:49:22
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Anarchist ideals never bring anything good.
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2024-09-28 02:49:37
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Look at Haiti for example.
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Demiurge
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2024-09-28 03:01:42
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Sorry for ranting :( And sorry if I offended or upset anyone. I try to keep things light. :) We weren't put here on this planet to be angry and serious all the time. ;)
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drkt
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Demiurge
I know a lot of people with crazy political beliefs from all sides of the spectrum and I think I get along with all of them real well since I think it's all equally a waste of time
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2024-09-28 03:11:58
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"I get along with crazy people" lol
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2024-09-28 03:12:19
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oh my god that was like 2 years ago I didn't notice the scrollbar
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damian101
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drkt
white people maybe
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2024-09-28 03:58:26
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bruh
"nigger"
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2024-09-28 03:59:12
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I mean, legally, freedom of speech and expression is very good in the US imo
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2024-09-28 03:59:23
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so I don't even understand what you mean exactly...
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_wb_
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2024-09-28 05:52:26
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Wow so much politics here
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Demiurge
That's why revolution usually does not result in improvement
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2024-09-28 05:58:52
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Generally revolutions that succeed always result in substantial improvements, and revolutions that fail result in some kind of authoritarian regime taking over.
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2024-09-28 06:12:20
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(sometimes you get both, when a revolution succeeds at first but eventually it fails)
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damian101
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_wb_
Generally revolutions that succeed always result in substantial improvements, and revolutions that fail result in some kind of authoritarian regime taking over.
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2024-09-28 06:14:37
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Would you consider the French revolution and the Russian revolution failed?
Because both kinda got taken over by extremists pretty quickly, with the Bolsheviks even using the French revolution as a model for that...
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_wb_
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2024-09-28 06:17:55
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Both succeeded first and resulted in huge improvements (democracy, literacy, health care, etc), but a few years later Thermidorian reaction prevailed, leading to a failure/betrayal of the revolution and pretty bad regimes taking power.
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2024-09-28 06:18:20
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History is nuanced
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damian101
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2024-09-28 06:18:51
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definitely
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lonjil
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2024-09-28 07:17:14
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I don't feel like that's an accurate take on Russia
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2024-09-28 07:18:00
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half the revolutionaries were anti-democracy and backstabbed the pro-democracy revolutionaries before the revolution was even properly over
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_wb_
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2024-09-28 07:35:23
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I don't think that's accurate. Bolsheviks weren't anti-democracy, if that's what you're hinting at. The stalinist degeneration mostly involved liquidating the old Bolsheviks...
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damian101
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lonjil
half the revolutionaries were anti-democracy and backstabbed the pro-democracy revolutionaries before the revolution was even properly over
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2024-09-28 08:29:32
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they learned from the French revolution and made a speed run out if it
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_wb_
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2024-09-28 09:25:17
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Revolution_Betrayed
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2024-09-28 09:27:58
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Trotsky's analysis of stalinism remains pretty accurate now much of the historical record has become accessible (after the collapse of the Soviet Union)
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Demiurge
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drkt
"I get along with crazy people" lol
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2024-09-28 10:03:45
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I do! I love crazy people :)
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2024-09-28 10:04:44
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I don't love illness but I love people with unique perspectives.
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2024-09-28 10:07:06
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It's not healthy to fear or disdain someone for being "crazy," because you're probably crazy yourself if you think you're perfectly sane ;) Just don't ever get roped into their craziness, though.
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2024-09-28 10:09:31
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And sane or not, it's good to avoid anyone prone to violence
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2024-09-28 10:10:46
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It's perfectly rational to avoid certain types of people for valid reasons, don't get me wrong.
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2024-09-28 10:12:10
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But lots of great men and women are crazy. Genius often coincides with crazy.
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2024-09-28 10:13:01
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Isaac Newton was probably crazy, and he invented differential and integral calculus.
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2024-09-28 10:13:38
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If they were afraid of being different then they wouldn't change the world.
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A homosapien
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2024-09-29 03:25:44
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Oh God this is reminding me of textbook PDFs containing text as jpegs
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Meow
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A homosapien
Oh God this is reminding me of textbook PDFs containing text as jpegs
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2024-09-29 05:49:15
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That's how official documents usually are in Asia
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kkourin
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2024-09-29 07:40:24
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EOPs btfo
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CrushedAsian255
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Meow
That's how official documents usually are in Asia
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2024-09-29 09:02:44
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Probably due to Asian text rendering differences
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Meow
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2024-09-29 09:03:10
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No they are just scanned images
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DNFrozen
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2024-09-29 09:56:23
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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/726063589982732288/817351232502497291/video0.mp4?ex=66f9dc67&is=66f88ae7&hm=40ec645a8f6ec212bef71b655792d5b329617238638f657b7234a4ee585c9398&
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spider-mario
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2024-09-29 10:14:08
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source: https://www.tiktok.com/@thatgingerfella1/video/6931348182110571781
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Oleksii Matiash
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Meow
That's how official documents usually are in Asia
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2024-09-29 10:59:43
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And sites 😦 So no chance to google translate
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lonjil
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2024-09-29 12:32:58
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https://discord.com/channels/794206087879852103/848189884614705192/1289924426959421533
reminds me that PWM often uses modulo 2^N-1 rather than 2^N (so 254 is the biggest value for N = 8) to allow for both 0% and 100% duty cycle inclusive using only N-bit compare values.
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spider-mario
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2024-09-29 05:17:14
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a bit ironic
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DZgas Ж
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2024-09-29 05:17:38
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Why use the word "image size" if it means "image resolution" and "file size" at the same time. Am I the only one confused by this in conversations?
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Demiurge
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DZgas Ж
Why use the word "image size" if it means "image resolution" and "file size" at the same time. Am I the only one confused by this in conversations?
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2024-09-29 08:30:37
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yeah, I think you're the only one. But it is a valid point.
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damian101
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DZgas Ж
Why use the word "image size" if it means "image resolution" and "file size" at the same time. Am I the only one confused by this in conversations?
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2024-09-29 08:38:59
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Resolution is actually number of something per some specified length, which can be full frame size and height, or a cm, or something else.
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2024-09-29 08:40:27
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I guess saying full resolution solves this.
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lonjil
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2024-09-29 09:04:26
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continuing from https://discord.com/channels/794206087879852103/794206170445119489/1290053953362591807
here's a fun document from the C++ committee
https://xcancel.com/seanbax/status/1838399375388651682
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AccessViolation_
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2024-09-29 10:05:06
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> "Memory safety is a very small part of security"
Hang on, let me...
[*sound of paper rustling*]
- *Google says 70 percent of serious security bugs in Chrome are memory safety issues*
- *Microsoft: 70 percent of all security bugs are memory safety issues *
- *Mozilla reports that in an analysis of security vulnerabilities, that “of the 34 critical/high bugs, 32 were memory-related.”*
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A homosapien
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AccessViolation_
> "Memory safety is a very small part of security"
Hang on, let me...
[*sound of paper rustling*]
- *Google says 70 percent of serious security bugs in Chrome are memory safety issues*
- *Microsoft: 70 percent of all security bugs are memory safety issues *
- *Mozilla reports that in an analysis of security vulnerabilities, that “of the 34 critical/high bugs, 32 were memory-related.”*
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2024-09-29 10:14:40
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Some people have the audacity to say you can just "code better". Therefore Rust is useless/ineffective.
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2024-09-29 10:20:11
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> "Memory safety is just a skill issue, REAL programmers only use C/asm"
--Some insane Phoronix commenter
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AccessViolation_
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2024-09-29 10:35:10
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I like the implication that Google and Microsoft must be hiring idiots if 70% of their bugs are memory safety issues. If they hired the Rust critics that simply don't make mistakes, they could probably cut their engineering costs significantly
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CrushedAsian255
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A homosapien
Some people have the audacity to say you can just "code better". Therefore Rust is useless/ineffective.
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2024-09-30 03:28:07
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You use ASM? Skill issue. REAL programmers use a teeny tiny magnet to flip bits on the HDD platter to write code
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VcSaJen
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2024-09-30 04:16:12
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Pascal is better than C for newbies: there's boundary checks, overflow checks, there's no switch fallthrough, etc. Still very easy to get memory leaks, tho.
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Foxtrot
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AccessViolation_
I like the implication that Google and Microsoft must be hiring idiots if 70% of their bugs are memory safety issues. If they hired the Rust critics that simply don't make mistakes, they could probably cut their engineering costs significantly
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2024-09-30 07:01:26
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Well, for this I have the perfect quote 🙂
>>> “The key point here is our programmers are Googlers, they’re not researchers. They’re typically, fairly young, fresh out of school, probably learned Java, maybe learned C or C++, probably learned Python. They’re not capable of understanding a brilliant language but we want to use them to build good software. So, the language that we give them has to be easy for them to understand and easy to adopt.”
-- Rob Pike (speaking about Golang)
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spider-mario
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2024-09-30 08:11:36
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a pcj classic
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CrushedAsian255
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2024-09-30 09:04:32
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wtf job search autocorrected to Jon Sneyers on my phone
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_wb_
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2024-09-30 11:55:13
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that's quite a stretch
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lonjil
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2024-09-30 11:58:20
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meanwhile I accidentally wrote devestation instead of devastation and neither autocorrect nor any of the suggestions gave me the correct word a mere edit distance of 1 away!
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2024-09-30 11:58:52
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'Deviantart' literally showed up as a suggestion rather than devastation
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_wb_
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2024-09-30 12:09:36
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autocorrect has become worse than it has been, it feels. I get corrections that are just wrong (not a correct spelling of any word) or in the wrong language.
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lonjil
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2024-09-30 12:11:35
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Every since Google added grammar checking, I've had a fun thing happen occasionally: I'll typo something, or even write a perfectly correct word, autocorrect will change it to a different word, and the grammar checker will say that the word is wrong. Such synergy.
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2024-09-30 12:12:03
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Though the grammar checker is just wrong 9/10 times anyway.
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jonnyawsom3
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CrushedAsian255
wtf job search autocorrected to Jon Sneyers on my phone
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2024-09-30 12:12:11
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It's telling you to help with jxl-rs
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CrushedAsian255
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It's telling you to help with jxl-rs
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2024-09-30 12:19:45
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Can’t get paid for that though, also barely know rust lol
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Quackdoc
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_wb_
autocorrect has become worse than it has been, it feels. I get corrections that are just wrong (not a correct spelling of any word) or in the wrong language.
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2024-09-30 04:26:23
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I no longer use gboard on my android phone since, it's terrible using futo keyboard and it's a lot better, still overzealous sometimes, but generally better
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TheBigBadBoy - 𝙸𝚛
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2024-09-30 07:48:32
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Unexpected keyboard [⠀](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/842099338904600599.webp?size=48&quality=lossless&name=av1_perfect)
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Demiurge
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2024-09-30 08:13:09
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I'm surprised there's been so little innovation in virtual keyboards
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TheBigBadBoy - 𝙸𝚛
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2024-09-30 08:27:18
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what features would you want that aren't already there?
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Quackdoc
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2024-10-01 12:53:47
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fcitx on android is... fine
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2024-10-01 01:52:47
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only briefly for testing, but one of the bliss devs uses it iirc
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VcSaJen
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2024-10-01 02:43:01
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I still have no idea how to enable spellcheck, but disable autocorrect on Android (Microsoft's keyboard).
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Meow
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2024-10-01 04:04:40
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Only Apple could fulfil my usage properly: typing traditional Chinese via pinyin
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yoochan
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Demiurge
I'm surprised there's been so little innovation in virtual keyboards
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2024-10-01 08:41:11
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there is innovation in virtual keyboard ! among which, tap & slide keyboards, inspired by japanese typing for hiragana selection like https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.exideas.mekb
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Quackdoc
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yoochan
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2024-10-01 08:44:16
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I didn't found open source alternatives but they exists... I don't know how to search for them on google 😄 this is just a tribute
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Quackdoc
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2024-10-01 08:45:40
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there arent much, right now the best one I know of is futo which uses I think it was claude for suggestions and uses whisper for voice to text
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2024-10-01 08:46:23
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probably the best real use for an LLM I have seen to date
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DZgas Ж
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2024-10-01 10:39:09
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Is today a day without open source ? what the http://gnu.org is down
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2024-10-01 10:43:09
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big chill (I couldn't compile ffmpeg for windows using ready-made script because it uses GCC from a sub-site git.savannah.gnu.org )
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Meow
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2024-10-01 11:16:50
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Pinyin, not Zhuyin which Taiwanese people generally use
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2024-10-01 12:17:23
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I want to type in English faster and I'm opposite to the politically-made another system
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CrushedAsian255
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2024-10-01 12:56:07
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I use simplified but really like Zhuyin for some reason
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Meow
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2024-10-01 12:57:29
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That "another system" isn't Zhuyin
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_wb_
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2024-10-01 01:26:20
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https://youtu.be/roBkg-iPrbw?si=b_sYRTI0JWVnuAPb
nice nostalgia back to the days of SoundTracker / ProTracker / ScreamTracker / FastTracker / Impulse Tracker
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spider-mario
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2024-10-01 01:34:35
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my discovery of tracker music was through Rocks’n’Diamonds, an open-source Boulder Dash / Emerald Mine clone https://youtu.be/jA6ofcUOpxw
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2024-10-01 01:35:08
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(https://www.artsoft.org/)
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2024-10-01 01:36:19
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(https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/rocksndiamonds/, https://packages.debian.org/sid/rocksndiamonds)
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DZgas Ж
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DZgas Ж
as a result, 10 months later, based on my own small developments, I decided to take the RLE algorithm as a basis to create a compression algorithm that would be as simple as possible to decode, from numbers to paper into checkered notebook.
removing the original ideas and the huffman tree.
1-17221-215131113-164244112-15122431221-15332312212-12641312211-12232226121-11525123122-104412211111122-10211-101111122-10211-1011142-10412223422-11421232332-12312322242-123118142-1339242-143331152-1548141-2412132-1941118-1641621-1881222-185121213-182412222-182712111-182412241-172322332-152422233-152832113-133642212-15-10322174561254591231116121512342221221518349724131141-10141172-16782-142436112-15142827191139253-103-10262321143927131847234314127623-22622-19239191-105389131273814132-1011482412188-2013-1013626-20121-271413151-1718151-171413141-182223222-18636-19535-201214212-2044212-201124212-201124211-2021245-19464-19464-18564-182126212-172126212-1756212-1756212-1747212-1747212-17475-17474-19374-19374-19373-2037314-1537323-15373-20463-20364-201125212-1945122-19446-182124122-191223213-19535-20535-211-333
there are 643 letters here, but if translate them into the 3-bit system, then about 214.3 bytes come out. + - (and since I'm using 9 digits and no 8 in this case, I'm only giving an approximate answer. there is no problem in using only 8 digits in the algorithm)
png bruteforce gives 413 bytes
cjxl -d 0 -g 3 -e 10 -I 100 --patches 1 Compressed to 253 bytes
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2024-10-01 10:24:24
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So.. I was able to greatly improve my algorithm by adding a brute force scan decoding method, brute force image sizes, brute force rotation of each image, brute force positions, getting the best compression ratio of all possible positions.
The most annoying thing is that in terms of compression strength, I have already surpassed all standard algorithms, like Jpeg XL lol. And I don't even have anything to compare it with....
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2024-10-01 10:27:29
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indeed, no one has ever worked in the field of strong compression of 1-bit images of small size To draw it manually on paper
I still haven't been able to find anything like this on document sites like arXiv.org. And even nothing that I couldn't come up with myself.
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2024-10-02 12:53:55
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yoochan
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2024-10-02 02:52:47
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Can you share the code ?
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CrushedAsian255
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DZgas Ж
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2024-10-02 02:53:23
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You could probably use prefix code or ANS to entropy code the numbers and dashes
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DZgas Ж
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CrushedAsian255
You could probably use prefix code or ANS to entropy code the numbers and dashes
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2024-10-02 02:55:34
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my program was created primarily for compression inside text, for people, with numbers from 1 to 9, for manual fast decoding in checkboxgrid note
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CrushedAsian255
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DZgas Ж
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yoochan
Can you share the code ?
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2024-10-02 02:56:12
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As soon as I finish it, yes
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2024-10-02 04:03:07
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Not so fast. But
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spider-mario
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2024-10-02 09:11:00
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https://youtu.be/1i7wjbqIoDQ
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2024-10-02 09:11:02
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underrated, imo
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DZgas Ж
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DZgas Ж
Not so fast. But
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2024-10-03 06:30:40
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Despite the fact that when decoding a 32x18 image, I never missed . Nevertheless, I decided to introduce sync-dots, which indicate that this number ends exactly at the border of the image
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2024-10-03 08:38:23
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``` 17WG1
35-182-175555529-125-13-153-16878-33494_139_```
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2024-10-03 08:44:09
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maybe worth creating a post on encode.su
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2024-10-04 01:10:57
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<@1051137277813870592>yep
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2024-10-04 01:11:10
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https://encode.su/threads/4316-NewEra-RLE-1-bit-image-for-manual-human-decoding?p=83953#post83953
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2024-10-04 01:11:21
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2024-10-04 01:13:48
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and so
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2024-10-04 01:14:04
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<:PepeOK:805388754545934396>
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2024-10-04 01:21:48
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The number of letters (which occupy the cells where the numbers are) is **3.57** times less than the total number of pixels
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VcSaJen
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2024-10-04 02:39:29
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As someone who's outside of Anglosphere, Master-Slave does not look offensive to me, but it is certainly eyebrow-raising. It would be kinda awkward to say it out loud. It's usually translated differently, or just not translated (transliterated). If translated, it is always in quotes.
That said, it is already an established term, so it does not make sense to change it without technical reasons. Even back in the late 00s, magazines here made fun of US companies trying to change them.
"Blacklist" is literal non-issue, enough said.
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Quackdoc
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VcSaJen
As someone who's outside of Anglosphere, Master-Slave does not look offensive to me, but it is certainly eyebrow-raising. It would be kinda awkward to say it out loud. It's usually translated differently, or just not translated (transliterated). If translated, it is always in quotes.
That said, it is already an established term, so it does not make sense to change it without technical reasons. Even back in the late 00s, magazines here made fun of US companies trying to change them.
"Blacklist" is literal non-issue, enough said.
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2024-10-04 02:42:10
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Some people think it's racist, which is the height of stupid. not to mention the alternative terms often don't even properly convey what master-slave does.
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CrushedAsian255
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2024-10-04 04:01:55
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Like USB has a pretty strict no speaking until spoken to, that seems indicative of a master / slave dynamic
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dogelition
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2024-10-04 06:43:57
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racism seems to be such an extremely sensitive topic in the US that it can lead to some really stupid situations, my "favorite" one being https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/10/us/usc-chinese-professor-racism-intl-hnk-scli/index.html
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CrushedAsian255
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2024-10-04 07:13:35
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Oh yeah I remember that one
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Oleksii Matiash
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2024-10-04 07:27:28
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Firefox is copying chrome more and more annoyingly. Can't wait until they break ctrl+tab behavior to the chrome one 🤦♂️
https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/1fvhnfy/how_to_remove_the_list_all_tabs_button_from/
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RaveSteel
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2024-10-04 07:44:41
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As long as alt-tab doesn't switch tabs instead of windows like in edge...
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Foxtrot
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2024-10-04 10:00:25
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I don't like when technology mix with politics.
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2024-10-04 10:05:59
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But some communities believe that technology is always inherently political or that it should be political to promote some "greater good".
I think many from Rust community have such beliefs.
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2024-10-04 10:07:59
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But maybe that's just Reddit.
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Quackdoc
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2024-10-04 10:12:23
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for sure reddit, most people using rust are too busy actually working to engage in pseudo political bs lol
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Foxtrot
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2024-10-04 10:17:52
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I guess you are right. I mostly see communities on Reddit so I have skewed image how they are.
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lonjil
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Quackdoc
Some people think it's racist, which is the height of stupid. not to mention the alternative terms often don't even properly convey what master-slave does.
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2024-10-04 10:22:00
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it's literally the other way around, master-slave usually close to meaningless, referring to vastly different things in different contexts, so it's better to use more descriptive terms that fit better for the particular application. But so called apolitcal tech people really hate the idea of not getting to use the word slave, so they push back even against better more descriptive terms.
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Quackdoc
for sure reddit, most people using rust are too busy actually working to engage in pseudo political bs lol
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2024-10-04 10:23:49
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no, Rust is 100% woke. Anyone who isn't should stay away.
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Foxtrot
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2024-10-04 10:25:14
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Tbh, this is exactly what I dont like when tech mix with politics... Why shouldnt people participate and use some tech like Rust just because they have different political opinions?
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2024-10-04 10:26:07
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In my ideal tech world even hard liberal and hard conservative could work together on tech, they would just each shut up about their politics.
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lonjil
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2024-10-04 10:26:47
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Oh they can. There are conservative people in Rust communities.
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2024-10-04 10:27:50
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Usually it's actually the other way around, the conservative person brings up politics and then gets banned. E.g., there are many trans people in Rust, and some conservative people don't like this, while those trans people just want to code.
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Foxtrot
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2024-10-04 10:31:28
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Well, I wrote "each shut up". I purposefully try not to blame one or the other because I dont know how it actually goes inside that community. Also I dont want to start argument with anyone here.
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2024-10-04 10:37:44
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Also interesting how USA politics can strongly affect the rest of the world because English is lingua franca and USA is technology superpower.
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2024-10-04 10:45:52
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And also one thing about Rust. Yeah, I guess it is now percieved as woke language. But I hope as it gains popularity and more and more people use it will also adopt more neutral position of just a language without any strong political affiliation. Basically like other languages.
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Quackdoc
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lonjil
it's literally the other way around, master-slave usually close to meaningless, referring to vastly different things in different contexts, so it's better to use more descriptive terms that fit better for the particular application. But so called apolitcal tech people really hate the idea of not getting to use the word slave, so they push back even against better more descriptive terms.
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2024-10-04 10:49:14
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I find this to rarely be the case. Often times master and slave is a much more technically accurate description now unused.
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lonjil
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2024-10-04 10:50:05
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Maybe we work in very different areas
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Quackdoc
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Foxtrot
Tbh, this is exactly what I dont like when tech mix with politics... Why shouldnt people participate and use some tech like Rust just because they have different political opinions?
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2024-10-04 10:51:34
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There are lots of tech things that are apolitical. The issue is lots of people keep trying to bring politics into it when they have no business doing so. In the vast majority of cases, you can completely avoid it. There's zero issues with that. However some more higher profile groups can't help but over step their bounds often times.
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2024-10-04 10:52:17
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But most drama in the programming sphere of things mostly just blows over relatively soon without any major consequences and it's usually stupid managerial bullcrap.
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Foxtrot
And also one thing about Rust. Yeah, I guess it is now percieved as woke language. But I hope as it gains popularity and more and more people use it will also adopt more neutral position of just a language without any strong political affiliation. Basically like other languages.
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2024-10-04 10:56:27
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It isn't really ,some people have issues with rust management, but that's literally typically as far as it goes.
And the vast majority of the Rust drama doesn't have anything to do with that. Like, it's the stupid decisions that prevent you from using Rust in your project names that make people treat rust foundation as a joke.
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Foxtrot
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2024-10-04 10:57:59
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Thanks for clarification. 🙂
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Quackdoc
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2024-10-04 10:59:27
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yeah. rust foundation has made some very... interesting choices over the past while. they seem to be doing fine now, but lots of drama, 95% of it is just really poor management.
this is also the case for the vast majority of things, ofc you do have stuff like fdo being absolutely retarded, but not much you can do there.
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_wb_
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2024-10-04 11:10:18
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For the libjxl repo, we did follow the trend to rename the main branch to `main` instead of `master` — which was maybe a bit overkill since I think that particular occurrence of "master" does not actually refer to master vs slave (which I do consider to be problematic terminology) but rather to master as in "master image" (as in the primary source of truth). But `main` is short and clear so why not.
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2024-10-04 11:11:39
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(also "main branch" makes more sense to me than "master branch", i.e. the adjective works better with the tree metaphor)
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CrushedAsian255
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2024-10-04 11:13:18
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https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/355TK88
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2024-10-04 11:13:30
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Thorium user survey
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2024-10-04 11:13:39
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Has a question about JPEG XL at the top
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lonjil
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_wb_
For the libjxl repo, we did follow the trend to rename the main branch to `main` instead of `master` — which was maybe a bit overkill since I think that particular occurrence of "master" does not actually refer to master vs slave (which I do consider to be problematic terminology) but rather to master as in "master image" (as in the primary source of truth). But `main` is short and clear so why not.
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2024-10-04 11:19:55
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interestingly, while git does not have master/slave, it did get "master" from BitKeeper, which did use master/slave.
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