JPEG XL

I had 3 vhs player, and even newer ones with digital scart, but I threw its all out, two worked worse than the simplest and most primitive one, this one.

not my

I like the glowing eyes of the duende staring at you behind the tree

Hi yall, tell me please, if I want to measure the speed of reading a let's say 4K .jxl photo (not jxl art) and writing it as .ppm, where do I get the .jxl pictures? Because these ⬆️ photos are saved as .jpg for me, or am I missing something? I've read online that iPhone 16 Pro can take .jxl photos, but I don’t have one.

It can produce DNG with a jxl payload, which is not quite the same thing as a jxl file.

You can take any uncompressed image and turn it into a jxl using cjxl...

this channel is simply for people to share their photographs, not necessarily to do so in jxl specifically

understood, thanks!

it seems some scenes from “Misfits” were shot with a tilt lens

👀

more of it

The Samyang AF 12mm F/2.0 was recently made available for Canon APS-C 👀 The F4.5 kit lens is pretty poor for low light. Canon's own low light lenses at this price range have much worse optics to my surprise

https://www.dpreview.com/news/4719680163/viltrox-sony-e-to-nikon-z-autofocus-adapter-lens-options

neat

I've wondered how those adapters can work at all, given that lenses presumably are precision engineered with the knowledge of exactly what the distance from the sensor to the lens is. Does using one of these adapters just shift your focus range? If so, I imagine that might break phase detect AF?

I imagine contrast based autofocus would still work since that just keeps moving the focus distance until things are sharp, but afaik phase detection autofocus essentially builds a depth map and just tells the lens what the focus distance is in a single step, but if there's an adapter between the lens and the sensor it would need to account for that somehow

Maybe the adapters have some chip in them to tell the lens/camera to adjust its algorithms

Ohh yeah, good point

they are indeed engineered with that knowledge (“flange focal distance”), but those adapters are designed to maintain that same distance

DSLR-to-mirrorless adapters are a big spacer of the right size

mirrorless-to-mirrorless adapters like this one are much trickier, when they are possible at all

to give an idea of the constraints: - Nikon Z: 16mm flange focal distance; 55mm throat diameter - Sony E: 18mm flange focal distance; 46.1mm throat diameter

I like this view. The church in the background and metal cans hanging from the tree reminds me of Resident Evil

which of these would you pick for a nice wide gamut hdr image? Basically to retain as much information as possible, while also still looking okay when the viewer software maps it back into whatever the gamut of the viewer's display is

I can't really compare them visually, since I have an sRGB display

Or is one of these just generally accepted as *the* profile to go for if you want to produce a wide gamut HDR image

Display P3

Cool, thanks :D

it’s going to be only wide-gamut, not HDR, but I wouldn’t recommend publishing an HDR image without actually being able to see it yourself anyway (and to be honest, I would say the same about gamut)

but yeah, Display-P3 is the go-to wide-gamut colourspace these days (previously, it would have been Adobe RGB, and people who print still favour it sometimes)

That's fair. I think my phone has a 10 bit wide gamut HDR display, so I wanted to create a high bit depth wide gamut HDR JXL from the raw of that image above and compare it to the out of camera Adobe RGB JPEG

From Wikipedia it seems HLG is 10-bit HDR, so I guess I'll try HLG P3 as well

Well Fossify Gallery which supposedly supports JXL seems to in fact not <:galaxybrain:821831336372338729> Or at least not HLG P3 ones

fossify gallery decodes jxl fine. limitations are inherited from the upstream library used afaik but oupson's tentative rebuild supposedly works a bit better

I ordered the Samyang AF 12mm F2.0 for Canon RF-S. I'm pretty excited! The only lens I have so far is the kit lens which is very poor. Terrible vignetting and distortion, and with a maximum aperture of F4.5 it's not at all good for low light. So I can't wait to try taking some wide angle blue hour or astro photos with this new lens

It has some color management issues. The same reason Shrek.jxl won't decode in it most likely

lens update i have the lens and I love it 👀 very bright and very little distortion, and the very wide angle is a lot of fun

Now to wait for some clear skies so I can hopefully take and share some nice twilight pictures 🌌

just discovered I can save photos in P3 colorspace instead of sRGB in GCam, should I use it ?

or, what would be the reasons to use one over the other ?

Display-P3 can represent slightly more saturated reds and greens

dashed = sRGB, coloured = P3

my phone shoots pics in the P3 colorspace, and the expanded gamut is definitely noticeable over sRGB

100% recommend

even the cyans can look more accurate

thank you both <:FeelsReadingMan:808827102278451241>

Does Apple ProRAW store out of gamut colours? What gamut does it use?

there isn't really such a thing

it stores whatever the photosites captured past the colour filter array (CFA)

see https://www.spiedigitallibrary.org/journals/optical-engineering/volume-59/issue-11/110801/Color-conversion-matrices-in-digital-cameras-a-tutorial/10.1117/1.OE.59.11.110801.full for more

ni'o la .varik. cu kacmyterxra le nu le co'e ja verba be la'o zoi. Zonotrichia leucophrys .zoi. cu jgari sanli le cmalu je jimca .i la .varik. cu ternupcpe tu'a no lo ponse terzi'e The photograph depicts that the white-crowned sparrow which is young or whatever holds (and stands-on) a branch which is small. VARIK creates the photograph. No rights reserved.

https://embed.moe/https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/803950138795622455/1330287395874013214/20241129163016.jxl?ex=678d6e2e&is=678c1cae&hm=09981f5d721d5735fc050684b9268757f23cf2bacddd5986e0aafdb867aba9d9&

nice :)

actually I don't know if we still have a bot for embedding jxl files, but `https://embed.moe/[full discord cdn url]` can be used to make discord embed jxl files

.i xu do tavla la lojban.

Ah, exported from RawTherapee as a quality 100 JPEG and then Transcoded (I was curious :P)

.i cadga fa lo nu li'armi fa le du'u la .varik. cu narka'e tu'a la .lojban.

https://embed.moe/https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/803950138795622455/1330331740434202704/JXL.jxl?ex=678d977b&is=678c45fb&hm=ae0d29a0212544d220077985d9ec2ffcb4d66f126f1a4f9b5d73eb09e0d29e29&

So smooth

A friend's question > Tech question: is there any reason why I cant record with my telephoto sense on my phone. Just curious. Every single phone I've ever owned with a telephoto zoom lense lets you take pics with it but not record videos. Just find it a bit strange

I'd guess small sensor size means resolution isn't high enough, but it seems a bit off

Telephoto being the 2x, 3x, 5x, whatever? If so iPhones let you record with it, 4K60. Doesn’t look amazing (looks more like 1440p60 imo) but still lets you

Maybe the telephoto lens doesn't have a buffer large enough or with a fast enough readout speed for video recording

I doubt all the camera sensors on a phone are ultimately fed into the same physical processing pipeline right after readout. It seems plausible that the telephoto camera just doesn't have the things you'd need for full on video recording as part of its own hardware

It ended up working at 4K30, but nothing else including 1080p30

Which phone?

it depends on model how the different lenses are capturing data

a cat invaded the office today

Neat little video explaining bitdepth and how to process 'out-of-range' images https://youtu.be/1gBXSQCWdSI

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/417763910733791253/1342400039242301511/IMG_20250216_222114_492.jpg?ex=67b97ef5&is=67b82d75&hm=a49e86fa37b369d2a0e52b0291ec97e8a00c58ceceea90da7667b5da3d98c064&

https://youtu.be/HvnY2IWoAGI?t=6m37s interesting concept

is that thumbnail clickbait??

it’s not

here is PetaPixel reporting on it https://petapixel.com/2025/03/02/xiaomi-wants-to-make-modular-magnetic-lenses-for-its-phones/

> This isn’t a lens on top of the phone’s own glass. It’s a standalone sensor-integrated lens module that magnetically attaches to the back of a phone.

https://petapixel.com/assets/uploads/2025/03/Xiaomi-Optical-Modular-System-pins-1536x1024.jpg how it looks with the camera detached

:o

honestly, i don't care about the phone, but i am interested in carrying a little standalone camera puck like that around :3

you bet thats proprietary to xiaomi

yeah...

I mostly wonder what the data rate of that 2-contact-connection for the external camera for the Xiaomi is...

they’re apparently quoting 10Gbps

(https://www.dpreview.com/news/8214205222/xiaomi-modular-optical-system-concept-four-thirds-magnetic?comment=1248230101)

I already posted about this in offtopic yesterday

i might get a xiaomi next time i upgrade phones

Random test picture that was shot in some pretty sub optimal conditions. It was windy, I had to use a rail as stand and couldn't try to take another pic because a boat docked and blocked the view. But somehow it looks better than I expected <:KekDog:884736660376535040>

dutch confirmed

that's a nice picture, what camera did you use? 👀

My phone XD

Which is mostly why I'm surprised it still looks like that. My old phone would have probably looked like a blurry noise mess

honestly pretty good, I know it's a PNG but it's always a breath of fresh air to not see a sky full of artifacts, whether they be JPEG compression or unreasonable HDR brightning/sharpening/smudging phones tend to do

The original jpg has all of those issues sadly

how did you manage to get a PNG out of it? does your native camera app allow you to export in PNG or did you use some third party camera app?

DNG and then mostly auto settings in Lightroom

ahh okay

Too bad it's about 3 hours away from where I live, so taking a stand with me wouldn't be practical. Otherwise I could have gotten rid of some noise and blur

10b jxl for fun™️

I really should dig though my photos sometime. I've only got my phone and no stand or stabilisation, but I have been taking nothing but RAWs for around 3 years now. So surely at *some* point my hands were steady xD

I also need to take a decent image with the monochrome sensor and see how it compares

Annoyingly, that's only JPEG, but I did notice in a firmware update they raised the quality level of all images

anyone know of something that will process lightfield raws (LFR files)?

....is this (poor) HDR?

no...

all the color management here is specified by the ICC profile

and afaik ICC doesn't support absolute transfer curves

ICC 4.4 does support the cicp tag which can do PQ if you want

this ICC profile does have a cicp tag but I’m not sure what’s in it

the non-cicp part of the ICC profile is linear sRGB

oh, it’s a libjxl-created ICC profile

then the CICP must also be linear sRGB

but then it’s odd that it was saved in the jxl as an ICC profile?

Well this probably looks horrible

That was done in Krita since it has native JXL support The new file is RawTherapee, but it exported a rec2020 PNG with sRGB transfer, so I stripped it and just made it PQ to get *something*

(I have no idea what I'm doing)

Earlier this month

https://maps.app.goo.gl/7j9Jzhax7sWw21hi7

Spring is in the air — blossoms on the cherry tree in my garden

https://embed.moe/https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/803950138795622455/1357052440922292356/IMG_20250402_190717346.jxl?ex=67eecd12&is=67ed7b92&hm=ad864fb70c5186e17ef1b36f141f2d2776ff4bb5c6067a5bd5014adfb75d3d54&

(SDR version)

very nice pic! just curious: does it have photon noise synthesis applied, or is that coming from the encoded camera noise?

I didn't add any noise synthesis, the noise is from the camera (maybe exaggerated a bit by some of the processing I did on the DNG)

It surprises me that a midrange phone can do this, this is a Motorola edge 40.

gotcha, yeah that's a very pleasing-looking picture

noise retention is awesome

the sunset we just had here

a common dandelion is more interesting than I thought

it took me forever to realize the yellow and white dandelion flowers were the same 😂

The noise almost looks like dithering or delta pallete with the way it's distributed

This made me curious how a similar pic with my phone would look since I have the same trees outside, but sadly most flowers are already gone and the lighting is quite suboptimal now

Heh, seems like my phone messes up RAW images

Without any denoising

The noise looks weird at some places, but guess that's because it resizes the image from 200MP to 50MP

I bet an image like this is problematic for gain maps approaches where the gain map is subsampled

the edge between the sky and the foreground looks weird to me, as if the sky is the foreground and melting like wax

Yeah, it does look a bit weird

Maybe taking random pictures of flowers isn't the best idea. Kinda want to buy a camera now <:KekDog:884736660376535040>

Wonder why my phone defaults to 1/2000 ISO 80 while it could also do 1/350 ISO 12

Motion clarity I'd assume, mine goes down to ISO 160 in indirect sunlight and 1/50, but manually setting it to 50 makes the shutter speed 1/15

Yeah, but 1/350 should be fast enough <:KekDog:884736660376535040>

True.... I also just remembered I need to take some damn pictures in London tomorrow, I forget every time xD

Should be sunny for once so I can use the low ISO, though my shaky hands aren't gonna make it look any better

might it be taking a burst, merging it, and incorrectly using the ISO value of individual frames for the merged result?

so it would effectively be n/2000s and ISO 80/n, but wrongly reporting this as 1/2000s and ISO 80?

(ISO 12232:2019: “In the case where the image recorded by the camera is the result of processing that combines multiple captured images, the EI [exposure index] value corresponds to the sum of the exposures for the images that have been combined. In this case, the EI value should be reported along with a notation indicating that multiple images have been combined.”)

(but in practice, I’m not sure anyone respects that)

No, that mode doesn't support 200MP

Sad, 200MP RAW has some compression artifacts which kinda defeats the purpose of RAW in my opinion (pictures are at 100% zoom) <:KekDog:884736660376535040>

AI interpolation?

well, in a phone there is no way 200MP camera has 200M "true" pixels

it's just a marketing thing

Yeah, just wondering if it's adding artifacts because of it's training data

Even mine uses AI interpolation, and it's from 2017

"200MP" LULE

new toy

A literal, hot photo

Though now you can make use of the thermal channel in JXL

Would be nice to have some sample jxl files with a whole bunch of extra channels being used in ways they're supposed to be used, like kThermal but also kDepth and maybe one or more named kSelectionMask channels segmenting objects etc

It would help if extra channels could be specified in cjxl like `-c Thermal=Image.png -c CFA=G2.png`, ect. It would also allow adding alpha channels when transcoding JPEGs, either from the alpha of an existing PNG or if the extra channel input is greyscale

Currently it's only possible though the API or handcrafted PPMs

Yes, that would be a nice addition to cjxl.

views from the train between Zürich and Vienna

I'll be staying in Vienna next month, so it looks like I'll be catching perfect weather !

how not to do urban design: placing a car lane between the tram and the tram stop

it has been brought to my attention that the law says that cars should leave the area clear until the tram’s doors are closed again

problem solved, I guess

it beats not having any kind of decent public transport ig

for me, a bigger problem is the lack of good A/C in the trams

it made traveling last year miserable lol

the buses and trains are good though

Travelling in London is wonderful, if you ignore the hearing loss on the underground, but anywhere else in the country it turns into a bit of a nightmare

Melbourne also acts like that

As shown in the attached image, it appears that Discord supports HDR photos using PNG (I'm also attaching an SDR JPG for visual reference) It would be amazing if JXL were an option (as it would seem likely capable of HDR with the right encoding). Two questions... (1) Anyone know if basic JXL support is on Discord's roadmap? (2) Anyone have any success with using AVIF for HDR? When I try similar encoding, it shows the HDR AVIF correctly as a thumbnail in the draft for upload, but shows a bad result after upload. I had hoped that support for PNG might make other formats likely to work, but I'm not seeing that right away and I'm guessing the issue is transcoding on the back end.

HDR AVIF got tonemapping support recently, JXL support relies on Chromium support, which is a brick wall at the moment

you could always ask or tell \@ScottKidder for any issues or questions you have, although JXL is very likely depending on Chromium support

I don't think it would be dependent on Chromium support at all? like afaik the processing is done on the server to convert to WebP

hmm, right I could see a scenario where they convert (animated) jxl to (animated) Webp but that's likely going to take a while

they're still (slowly) working to get av1 support

<@1156997134445461574> what do you think? Would it be possible to have JXL convert to WebP?

Oh right, but files need to have support for when you click/tap on them, as that loads the original file

Good point, forgot that there is a web version and not just the app. LOL.

Yeah, we're considering adding support for JXL sources later this year. We're a small team, so scheduling can be tough to pin down. I'm fully supportive of it though!

tentatively forwarding this message to <#803574970180829194> :p

Thanks for the reply!

😋

What is this? Compost?

roots and dirt of a potted plant

grass grew there, for many years. a lost pot of plants. due to lack of freedom, the roots like a sponge penetrated into every part of the soil, holding it together like glue

Yeah, it happens pretty often if you don't keep moving the plant to a bigger pot

if the plant is big, at some point the amount of water and minerals from the soil is not enough to continue life. but if it is small then everything is fine

Yeah, usually it hits a balance, when the roots can't spread the growing stops

this is not quite true, it can just die. there are special means that suppress growth, fertilizers. for indoor plants so that they do not grow too much

Interesting, didn't realise fertilizers stunted growth too, but I'll stop before we need a gardening channel too xD

<#803950138795622455> 😉 😉

Touché

A very old photo I took at my Grandparent's house. I ended up with a very interesting look by having the flash on in sunlight

https://bsky.app/profile/freya.bsky.social/post/3lsydbmc6kc2y

Hey we talked about this last year

Any simple averaging downscaling will reduce noise since if you sum noise, it cancels out a bit. If the noise is a Gaussian with mean 0 and stdev s, then downscaling by a factor of 2 in both dimensions cuts the stdev in two. But of course you also get a smaller image.

yeah, it won’t necessarily look less noisy when displayed at the same physical size, as DPReview illustrated here https://www.dpreview.com/videos/7940373140/dpreview-tv-why-lower-resolution-sensors-are-not-better-in-low-light

<@604964375924834314> Continuing from https://discord.com/channels/794206087879852103/806898911091753051/1390004258279260272, you got some great photos. Certainly puts mine to shame haha. I should really go around London for a dedicated shooting day sometime, now that I have a few years of knowledge from this server and know how to squeeze the most out of my phone (Cameras are expensive!) These are a little dark because they're unprocessed, but they're the better ones I've taken during my monthly trips there

that's a lot of noise and chroma blocking 🥴

actually, might not be chroma blocking

Do you add noise intentionally?

I take photos like this

Old camera?

no, high iso and no denoising give this effect. the smartphone camera is small, with a high density sensor matrix. I like how this one looks on me. it evokes feelings

the

The grain looks amazing here

why does the colour of the noise look like its in grids?

It's still a JPEG output, so it's got some processing on it

i like this, the grain looks cool

just jpeg compress

JPEG compression tends to heavily remove noise (high frequencies) during high compression (quantization tables cause high frequencies in blocks to become zero). Since images are divided into 8x8 blocks, the coherence between blocks is lost, and 8x8 step artifacts can become visible. These artifacts are less noticeable in large images but become more apparent in smaller images.

☝️ 🤓 every single person on this server knows this, without exception

Water droplets on a car window, it's not much but I like it :)

made it 10x smaller 🙂

What encode settings did you use?

`-j 0 -d 3 --photon_noise_iso=2000`

Wondered if this bug was happening, since it seemed way too noisy to me https://github.com/libjxl/libjxl/issues/4368

i mean i dont know if our standards of "too noisy" are just different, or if you're using a different image viewer than me (which could be bugged) im just using the default image viewer in windows 11 this is not encoded in progressive mode because i know about this bug and it wouldn't be beneficial here anyways

The source was clean so I was surprised to see noise even in the highlights, that's all

oh yeah i just apply grain for stylistic reasons, i really like the texture it brings plus it can occasionally hide compression artifacts when you use a higher distance

it can look a bit extreme up close

but when you look at the image as a whole its usually a lot more reasonable

The encoding actually takes into account the photon noise, and deletes the data that's underneath it to use the bits elsewhere. That was at 100% zoom, so normal viewing

thats really smart, i thought it was just generically layered on top

100% zoom is not "the image as a whole" though its being displayed at absolute scale but i usually optimize for someone viewing this zoomed out to see the entire thing

(does it?)

also it seems to me that it looks a little softer and less strong on my image viewer? i dont know why

maybe im just delusional

Hmm, maybe I'm going insane, or saw wb talking about doing it in future

Could've sworn adding photon noise reduces bpp though

bpp?

bits per pixel

so bitrate

well if thats true, or going to be true in the future, its genius

i put grain on basically all photographic images

though if jonny is implying that the photon noise is responsible for the 10x reduction im not convined thats true i think i compressed it first without grain, then added grain iteratively after i was happy with the distance setting the image probably compressed well because its just super uniform theres many areas of fuzzy low frequency detail

I wish I could do that to all my images and still share them with others! Probably gonna convert all my JPG:s to JXL once I get around to writing a script to do that, since it's easy to convert back.

Just remember to use cjxl for that, as other programs don't do JPEG transcoding

I will for sure!

Also I wish Canon would add JXL support in their RAW editor directly...

view from my window, every night. many people have never seen this in their lives because they have lived in the city their whole lives

imax film scan of interstellar compressed using synthetic film grain its about 40x smaller than the original PNG

https://embed.moe/https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/803950138795622455/1407395441649254495/interstellar.jxl?ex=68a5f2a5&is=68a4a125&hm=335b591c46521a0fa2422f86fbb5c878d141f3b55b9526b1d36b5a1c88c8cd17&

It'll be nice when we can select different noise LUTs for different types of noise

wait thats a thing thats coming?

It already uses a LUT, but right now it's to mimic ISO photon noise, it should be possible to make other kinds. AV1's grain synthesis for film was based on JPEG XL's noise

(I have been wrong before)

so that makes me curious does JXL grain work the same way AV1 grain does? how it samples blocks from a grain table instead of literally generating all that noise from scratch because if thats true, then its amazing how i haven't really noticed any repetition in the JXL grain AV1 grain creates very obvious repeating patterns

if the feature you're describing really is going to be added, thats huge for me i rarely actually want literal "photon noise", i use grain artistically for a film look

Have a read though this https://discord.com/channels/794206087879852103/794206087879852106/1370760290286960845

yeah that makes a lot of sense

um

you mentioned `--noise 1`

is that a cjxl setting i just missed?

like ive never heard of that flag

That's because it doesn't work, at least not very well

🐈‍⬛

Some of the first cat pictures from an A7R Mark 5, cropped down from 60MP 10-bit original: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/901852155173036157/1414297651163435208/DSC00928_med.jxl?ex=68bf0ed4&is=68bdbd54&hm=03f744c97218be35ee94d93388b90c88db7d95da98eca51b81dc8e0b7e9d45aa& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/901852155173036157/1414297650534158470/DSC00928_face.jxl?ex=68bf0ed4&is=68bdbd54&hm=9c638ed35a21cbdeec8f1b8388061287bd6f022310de2e621913c5cfd4211c2e&

Cute pussy

10-bit? isn't it 14?

Both my A7R5 and FX6 only record 8 or 10-bit. The same would apply to other cameras in the respective families.

https://mega.nz/file/aI9ggAKJ#OPzZWFB8Yr98IdM0ETZc3wXlTBLDD2aWaO8TILdXsaQ <- another cat jxl

Huh, Mega is making a preview for that JXL file

Seems like you can get 14-bit by saving as RAW

the FX6 is a cinema camera; aren't we talking about stills? video is another story

it seems to be loaded as a jpeg, but mega also has other formats on standby??

Yeah, but the fact it decodes the JXL for the preview alone was a surprise. For some reason they have a 1 pixel pink JXL on standby

I wonder why it's one pixel - wouldn't an 8x8 pixel image be smaller just because of header encoding?

Technically a 512x256 image would be smallest, IIRC

Mega's android app opens the file I think.

The oldest (former) school in northern Taiwan

there's the vote for the Wikimedia Commons Picture of the Year 2024 now: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Picture_of_the_Year/2024/Gallery/Finalists

even if you don't intend to vote, there's some *stunning* images there

I’ve moved https://sami.photo to a CDN, so now it should be fast everywhere

incidentally, my VPS which used to host it has chosen just now to be down

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Omgg so pretty <3

In fact, these are the last butterflies, the temperature outside has dropped so much that they can't move their wings to fly, their motor muscles don't work, they were born too late, their destiny is to die. Such is life.

📍 🦋

Now I realised why the butterfly was on the ground

That is so sad oml

Cant u warm them up

I've done this before, and they'd start flying, fly outside, and then end up in the same situation. This is their entire life, and it's over. Until spring. When their laid larvae hatch into caterpillars that will eat the flowers.

cool :3

👏

there is an image behind the noise [dogesmile](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1323550805307162716.webp?size=48&name=dogesmile)

makes it chaotic though. looks very nice

Water

Samsung Galaxy S9

these are really nice

Thanks

there’s something very immersive about them

Gives a film feeling

unfortunately i dont think my phone saves them in very good quality that or discord craps it up

discord heavily compresses things sent from phones yeah. I think if you upload the same things from desktop they should look better?

that's how it worked at one point, at least

yeah i feel like when i took these they were much higher fidelity, somethings wrong

Discord seems to compress them to quality 40 JPEGs

while your phone probably records them at quality 95 to 99

Yeah, Discord on mobile compresses with quality based on resolution, instead of resizing and keeping high quality... For some reason... So you end up with 12MP photos that look worse than 1MP https://discord.com/channels/794206087879852103/805176455658733570/1407879825422811208

And yeah. Uploading on desktop or converting to PNG works, it only effects mobile JPEGs

viewing pngs on mobile it will still show a compressed version until you open in browser

If I were to get nitro and send a photo here, would it still become compressed

some other mobile clients (such as Aliucord) allow you to bypass compression and send the original file

Guys i have an issue whever i photoshop my photos and turn them from HEIC to PNG, Look at theese two images, the one that is a png(on the top) has less colour than the one thats heic(on the bottom) so my question is why does this happen and how do i fix it

@guys

@yall

@please_answer_me

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https://tenor.com/view/die-suicide-duck-tom-and-jerry-gif-18507050

https://tenor.com/view/tom-jerry-depressed-sad-train-gif-12569847

Life is not worth living without knowing why my png format removes my heic colours

maybe heic is 10 bit, and png is 8 bit? dunno

Let me search that up

Hmm you seemth to be right

Is there a way to use 16-bit png

Accualy no need to answer that

you said enough my champion <@1321081296113373187> you are king

so ill leave the server now that i know what to do

Bye bye <@1321081296113373187>

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bit depth is not the issue here, it's colorspace. The HEIC is Display P3 and the PNG is sRGB.

Dude, ass soon as i open the Heic file on the photoshop it looses its colours

i didint even export it

Its just lost

The second

i open it in photopea

I don't know photopea, probably it's just not doing color management right, maybe just assuming everything is sRGB.

should i try other photo shoppping programs

Ill try blender then

Mabye it can fix it

Blender does not open HEIC?!?!?!

you know what

Fuck clours

They can go to hell

I'll just do somthing else

I aint no image formating nerd

I dont know how to do stuff

HEIC support is generally not great outside the Apple ecosystem. A recent imagemagick should be able to convert your heic to png without throwing away the icc profile...

Waw that accually looks good

its soo good, infact, you could say its magic 😉

Imma install imagemagick then

wait thats just a heic file i though it was png

😳

it is a PNG it's just named like .HEIC.png

phew

im not a bozo then

or mabye i am

🤡

But yea im not

But what if?

Nah just kidding not a chance

Anyhow im verry thankfull for your help if there is anything i can to do pay you back, i might do it

Woopsie

dont read what i deleted pls

Ok

what is jepg-xl even i never seen that ever

<#822120855449894942>

the more you know

hence XL (extra larger)

hey your a scammer

your pofile is sexual therefore you scam, would you agree or disagree?

thats what i learnt from No text to speach at least

<:WhatThe:806133036059197491>

https://jpegxl.info/

How did you get here?

i was looking to fix my heic colours

they change when they are in my photopshop software

Yeah but how did you find the Discord server? There's only a few links floating around

i searched up image nerds

on discovery

It checks out

You're lucky that this server basically knows all image formats

This was how

Wait, that's our banner image? xD

Might be worth giving it a refresh, especially if we can get the server tag

that banner image has a disgusting amount of artifacts

the antithesis of what we stand for

how about this thumbnail

https://jpegxl.info/

yea kind of ironic

considering thats the antithesis of what we stand for

and by we, i just quoted what you said

2018

Beautiful scene

Where was that taken

in russia

Blue

<:PepeOK:805388754545934396>

Looks rlly cool

these are really nice

potato zen garden

yes i made it: water, potato and salt are the ingridients

if you would like to know more about the prosses then you should inquire

uppon further inspection of thr image

i might've added poisonus potato from mincraft

how do i know? because i feel like steve after eating a poisonus potato

kill me already potato, i dont wanna live with the knoledge that i fell for your trap

you poisoning cunt

oh nvm i survived

my stomach was just struggling to digest 6 mashed potatoes

that world from a long-forgotten dream