JPEG XL

This the max detail my phone camera can capture

Without pixel binning

And scaled to 12 mpx

The app closed

First time my phone with 8 GB ram almost crashed

I had 13 exposures

Noise reduction disabled

App Is photon Camera

Now i Will try to open It

Ah i were only with GPU acceleration thats the slowness

At 3.6 GB It crashes basically only 1 GB 1.6 GB usable in reality and i have 8 gb ram

And gpu is fast the processor is snapdragon 780g with 5g 778g lags even in FB so hard for example the 11 lite ne version

It's not like your processor is bad. The problem is with software. Either Facebook app or miui is bad

not, this is photon camera

it should give the photo as it is

the samsung gn1 has no autofocus of any kind

and this photo has a focal length of 4.7 mm

this time it didn't processed the picture and ram dropped to 3.2 gb

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Qgi3ZloeUhJkbxm8SoJ0cX2xgh9uckX8/view?usp=sharing

those photos on maximum dynamics

this is h264 at 3,5 mbps

took a picture of the moon with my smartphone

through a telescope though 🙂

Maybe this one is a bit sharper

yes, and less noisy

and perhaps slightly less chromatic aberration

I took it through the window, at an angle, and it's triple glass, so not quite ideal conditions 😅

https://youtube.com/shorts/zQwoznQ_xtk?feature=share

The moon moves surprisingly quickly

It was also a bit cloudy

Wow youtube recompression is aggressive, the clouds are just gone

that's why people keep upscaling videos they upload there

especially at 1080p and below

Gotta upload at at least 1440, so you get VP9... or get enough views <:Cheems:890866831047417898>

gotta upload 8k for av1

Dog stack

It's a fascinating big rock in the sky, and I am surprised that pictures like this can be made with a not-very-fancy telescope and a cheap smartphone

Using Open Camera instead of the default camera app is a must though - the default app has no control over exposure etc, and creates silly artifacts from AI "improvements" etc

Motioncam 7.0.8 night exposure

Still Samsung Isocell lack in term of detail

Wb is using sony or Samsung phone sensor?

It's a Mi 9T, no idea what sensor is in it

IMX582

If you bought mi 9t pro, it has IMX586 - less noisy photos at low light.

oof, on my phone open camera is restricted to a max of 0.2s exposure

you need to use the manufacturers camera app to get longer exposures

which is like bruhhhh

idk how but gcam can bypass this tho <:Thonk:805904896879493180>

~~Open camera is kinda oof <:KekDog:884736660376535040>~~

For the moon, with a telescope, I don't need long exposure at all — that thing is quite bright

hmm\

yes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_(luminance)

~2500 cd/m² apparently

Wb lon exposure i downloaded on 23 nov this app gcam

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DoDbI1yjxnoseZ8Cbb50er1XNGLNXOT3/view?usp=drivesdk

It's to the point where you want a filter to reduce its intensity if looking with the naked eye.

Did you enable camera2api in opencamera settings?

max is 1/4 nathan if you want to do moe light you need astophotogaphy and this app can do that

cama fv 5 will not raw shooting with long exposue

nathan you on avone sev i have also came f five https://discord.com/channels/587033243702788123/673202643916816384/918887952996769844

this is shooten with https://github.com/mirsadm/motioncam/releases/tag/7.0.8-beta1

yep

I get maximum of 33 sec on open camera.

I also only get max. 0.2s with camera2api enabled. Default camera app goes up to 30 seconds XD

Depends on sensor. Sony's have longer exposure times. Samsung doesn't.

Funny that the default camera app can go up to 30s without problems though. Wonder why OpenCamera doesn't. Sadly because of that OpenCamera only has a use for me for videos, because it can go up to 200mbps... but videos have their own issues like not being able to shoot 2160@60 while the default camera app can

There are two different exposure modes on smartphones. One works on sensor support and another mode just fakes long exposure by software. You can get longer exposure time on Samsung by patching some system libs though.

we have the same phone so makes sense lol

Lol, didn't know <:KekDog:884736660376535040>

for some reason i can't seem to check what sensor my phone has on android 11 anymore

This app will work on many phones I think.

which app is that?

i used to use aida64 to check

Device info hw

can't see the camera sensor

So, it doesn't for you he he

i get a warning that in newer android versions a lot of info is no longer accessible without root on startup lol

I too get that warning. But it's working fine. I have Android 12

under an older android version on this phone i was able to check the sensor so idk

i forgot what it had tho

You can know what's used by searching your phone model number on google

and it's either a samsung or sony so that doesn't help

either a SLSI_SAK2L4 or SLSI_S5K2L4 apparently 🤔 <@!263309374775230465> apparently despite the name the SAK2L4 is actually a sony sensor and not samsung

but that doesn't seem right

No. sony sensors name starts with imx

yeah that's what i thought

Sak2l4 is samsung

for some reason it didn't ask for camera perms lol

https://www.deviceranks.com/en/camera-sensor/690/samsung-sak2l4

but now it can read it 🤷

SAK2L4

i just get an error page lmao

all look like samsung sensors from the name

Yeah. all samsung starts with S

seems like most people have a sony front cam on this device hmm

funnily enuf apparently android 12 is incompatible with the local covid shit... that's fun lol

probably can just manually give it the permission it needs with adb but it seems bad that even now people are still complaining about the app crashing immediately on android 12 lol

the target sdk should be android 11 and google is supposed to keep backwards compatibility with the new bluetooth permissions on lower target sdks so it might be a completely different issue lol

> Please add this app to support old phones. My dad just now wanted to download the app on his phone tuk booking sembahyang jumat this week, but guess what? Not compatible!! Baiktah update, kesian bh orang yang telipun lama. Indakan disuruh bali baru?? Atau kn menyuruh minjam handphone anaknya yang lain? Padahal rh telipun kami, kami punya account masing2 lain. Nada alternative lain kh?

lol

Why don't they use inbuilt covid service

Our government specifically avoided using the contact tracing methods offered by Android/iOS and rolled their own, which surprisingly didn't pan out

don't ask me likely so they have more control over the data and can track us more easily, also the gov makes ample use of the ability to restrict where you can go with their covid tracker which wouldn't be possible with the covid tracking api

What if someone don't have smartphone and uses only old nokia phones?

previously you could just show your id, but now you can't go anywhere afaik

you still need to show your id even with the app now tho at most places

i mean just look at the complaint i posted above around people with shitty android phones not being able to download it <:kekw:808717074305122316>

The morning sky can be beautiful

(view from my kitchen window, sorry about the window border)

Ice crystals on the window. Triple glass insulation works quite well...

<:BlobYay:806132268186861619>

Just remembered another use case for lossless recordings. (This pic was created from 128 images.)

Is it from a pc game?

yes (DiRT Rally 2.0)

Full rainbow

<a:Catrainbow:681237352290844775>

Looks good

> created from 128 images Wdym?

https://twitter.com/RembrandtsRoom/status/1479885884333961221?t=3zZ6U5mlaej17gDFSND_5Q&s=19

Great photo, horrible compression artifacts

https://35photo.pro/photos_main/363/1819651.jpg

Better version

Looks so much better, how'd you remove the noise?

Wait, the 2nd one has a watermark

was the watermark edited out or compression artifacted out

Someone replied to <@794205442175402004> an even better version: https://twitter.com/DasSurma/status/1480153933746262016

Used jxl magic on it 😜

Behold, the power of ~~stock photos!~~ jxl https://editorial01.shutterstock.com/wm-preview-1500/9252389c/bda207de/Shutterstock_9252389c.jpg

Keeps getting better (not sure if discord shows the gif animation): https://www.reddit.com/r/photoshopbattles/comments/9o4npo/comment/e7rgjgk/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

You record a (preferably lossless) slow motion video and then put the frames together to create realistic looking motion blur.

good concept tbh

What is it

museum my father works in, they're preparing for bigg exhibit because of europe culture capital status of Kaunas

Nice

Do you like the colors of this Image

Is last camera go celsoaveredo

5 mpx resplution

And latest 11022022 bsg v2 foto is only 8 mpx and look far worse

People are compressing more images

Not sure if I should've made the foreground brighter or not

Yes

For some reason I kinda liked it being more of a shadow and only the sun being bright in the background. But will also do a second export with a brighter foreground

Nevermind, this looks **way** better XD

Another thing

The background looks clipped

And you didnt even raised brightness

I'm still a big noob when it comes to photography <:KekHands:900483483074428968>

I did raise the brightness though. Even used a picture with a slower shutter speed

But yeah, didn't raise it by a whole lot. This one is slightly brighter. Just don't know which one I prefer personally

blue was ight jpeg xl images vey noisy

for %i in (C:\Users\Use\Desktop\wwdfe\*.png) do cjxl -s 7 -q 31.561 --photon_noise=ISO2234 %i %i.jxl

but photon noise isn't optimial in fiefox mozilla

I can send a 43 mb png image you process it with JPEG XL

Is edited with digikam, then converted processed by JPEG XL with moderate settings d 3.37 photon noise and processed by xnview

Then if you want i have a setting to convert with jpeg xl

Does this file work for you? Seems to be corrupted or something

Oh wait nevermind. The imageglass decoder seems to be out of date. Works in chrome

I use xnview and Firefox

Also it has photon noise

Also imageglass not Good

Ah

I did a new edit

But you need to compress a bit to hide visual quality

Also is tacky

Tormmoro i send

Png 43mb

Cherry Blossom on Campus (South Korea)

Gotta love that there's even noise in well lit environments on phones ~~and this is with some denoise~~ <:reee:854024330832117792>

yes, because of lower saturation capacity

often somewhat soft lenses, too

which kind of makes sense: https://www.strollswithmydog.com/equivalence-sharpness-spatial-resolution/

(and probably especially the fact that they are made from few elements)

My roommate: **gets plant from his work** The plant after 2 weeks:

Those can come back to life, as long as the big leaves are still ok

Just don't water it, only rinse the roots like once a month or so

Half the leaves fell off already

it def doesnt look dead or anything though

Looks like an orchid. Those can go for years without blooming and be fine. Yeah, definitely needs little water.

Yeah, it's still alive, but lost half it's leaves, branches went from green to yellow and the flowers went from strong looking to floppy and hanging... within 2 weeks <:KekDog:884736660376535040>

it'll regrow new branches & flowers when it doesn't feel stressed

Doubt it'll survive long enough

It's probably have the same ending as the roses my roommate once got from he work... he just yeeted them on the balcony and then they rotted away

ooof

why even bring things back & not take proper care of them

I... have no idea

Guess he doesn't want to get bothered with it

or impulsiveness

At least now it matches the apartment <:kekw:758892021191934033>

A shitload of random stuff everywhere, so a dying flower fits in better than a healthy looking flower

I have a habit of killing any plants I look after, uncle gave me a bunch and I just dumped them outside, months later and they're going fine

looks real cool

Noise

Guess it was shot on a phone? <:KekDog:884736660376535040>

actually a Nikon D3500

I don't actually know what I'm doing, it's just a lab camera

Oh yeah, high ISO. That explains it

Just guessed phone because they have a lot of noise

2800 ISO <a:DogeScared:821038589201612820>

Kinda high for something static :p

~~It's funny how it probably looks similar to 150 ISO on my phone... gotta just love the tiny sensors~~

What is this machine

it's an HPLC pump

Had a dinner at a local Wingstop, JPEG version with mozjpeg (this photo is also available in Wikimedia Commons, licensed under CC BY 4.0, attribution: VulcanSphere / Wikimedia Commons / CC BY 4.0). Taken with a Samsung phone

JXL version with cjxl, progressive transcoding with quality 75

Sony

Cat in tree <:KekDog:884736660376535040>

Inside a Boeing B787 Dreamliner (back in 2017)

JXL version with cjxl, default as-is transcoding

I don't think it's surviving <:KekDog:884736660376535040>

It already looked oof'd 3 weeks ago...

At least there's a lot of green outside now. Everything close to the window looked green ish, because of the reflection on the leaves outside <:KekDog:884736660376535040>

that soil looks too damp

for this

it seems struggling but not ded yet

It'll die. My roommate got it from his work about 2 months ago. After a month or so it looked like the picture where it still had 3 leaves and now it only has 1 leaf left. My roommate said he would try to keep it alive starting 3 weeks ago, but this is the result XD

People playing SOUND VOLTEX IV HEAVENLY HAVEN at 2017 Indonesia Comic Con

JXL version with cjxl

I have no idea where I got this, but what happened to the plants in this shot?

Too much signal processing, I guess. They try too hard to reduce noise and get clean edges...

(HDR)

SDR version using enfuse

hm, maybe slightly overdone now that I look at it again with fresh eyes

a bit better when making the inside lighter, maybe

wow in this channel they just send photos?

10 kites on a single string.

My first trip with a new camera, Fujifilm X-T100 😃

really nice colors

I presume you are the one on the rock?

https://c.tenor.com/Vx1YRHJ3r8YAAAAM/the-sun-grows-the-food-hopper.gif

That's an ambitious grasshopper there

not everything might have a silver lining, but at least there will always be this bronze Li Ning

Gimme those glasses <:KekDog:884736660376535040>

Wonder how much I can expand the fox pillow collection. They somewhat help with trauma stuff, so I have a good excuse <:KekDog:884736660376535040>

sick setup

I don't even have a bed

finally I printing my art

cherry picking commits for the next version

Hm, pretty good for a phone camera with some magic <:KekDog:884736660376535040>

How bleh it looks without some magic XD

<@219525188818042881> what's that magic?

Taking many pictures and combining <:KekDog:884736660376535040>

Sadly denoise looks ugly af and kills detail

Sadly I don't have a stand, so I just made one out of some paper, tape and an empty duct tape roll which isn't exactly... stable, so only combined 5 images. With more images the result could get much better and it would probably also be slightly sharper with a proper stand XD

Google camera does better denoising without loosing much details though. But it requires profiling the camera sensor with some tools and applying the data on it.

It would have probably looked much worse than the first picture though

I really dislike the effects of edge enhancements and most if not all denoisers. It makes images look very artificial

you probably don’t need a stand if you allow for image alignment, e.g. with `align_image_stack` from Hugin

Eh, will take too much time and effort and will introduce human error

Or well, if it's automatic then there's still the chance it'll get it slightly wrong and introduce blur

in my experience, it works well

You want the slight error though, helps offset fixed sensor noise

The Pixel phones do it on purpose when taking pictures, and I know there's some normal cameras that do it as well

can also help with aliasing

my 2018

why that much noise?

shit camera

But maybe Looks with its own style

these are nice where is this at

At my home

Caught him when he was trying to eat my snacks.

I had a wonderful trip… Peru.

i was in peru months ago too. loved the mountains

I miss the old appearance of Aqua, with those glass-like buttons

I miss dad

I'm about to ride 20 km today, last time (a month ago) the flood trashed my plan...

😯

thankfully this time it was a-okay. but some road has been under construction, so I had to detour and the total distance was 27.3 km (!)

and I'm physically exhausted, even more so than I hoped

<:kkomrade:896822813414011002> 🚲

None of these are in JXL format?

Kinda surprising.

my phone only emits jpeg.

Mine does HEIC...

Discord doesn't support JXL, probably won't for a while. Neither do phones (unless you've hacked it in). For now, should stick with JPG so everyone can view it. Eventually JXL will be supported everywhere. Now is not that time.

deer in Richmond Park, London

(apparently, it’s currently rutting season, so it is advised not to approach them at the moment)

???

Bet it's the entrance to his BDSM shed 😨

Okay, stop paranoia

The shed is even bigger than expected <:monkaMega:809252622900789269>

nice dog photo!

it definitely is one of the dog photos of all time

was the superlative that one might have expected omitted for humorous effect?

Took this a while back

very nice

Extra fibers? 🤔

Vulcan knows this isn't a photograph but still wants to demonstrate JXL saving

```JPEG XL encoder v0.7.0 f95da131 [AVX2,SSE4,SSSE3,Unknown] Read JPEG image with 724559 bytes. Encoding [Container | JPEG, lossless transcode, effort: 7 | JPEG reconstruction data], Note: Implicit-default for JPEG is lossless-transcoding. To silence this message, set --lossless_jpeg=(1|0). Compressed to 599976 bytes including container ```

not sure this counts as photography

also most people can't read spaghetti anyways

The name of the language is Italian

It's confusing because it's one of those cases where the name of the people differs from the name of their language.

Thanks. I don't know why but I'm always mixing up french and italian so I gave up at some point and now just call them food languages

are you italian?

No, I am beer

I mean waffles

https://tenor.com/view/relaxing-waffles-bathtub-gif-4456839

Guess this falls under "dramatic photography" <:kekw:808717074305122316>

Hello, i wonder is there a way to convert a sequence of jpeg xl into prores?

I guess ffmpeg can do that?

more precisely wafel ou gauffre ?

C'est la même chose, nietwaar?

Nice, I only understand 1 word in that sentence <:KekDog:892418529117233162>

absolument ! I just wondered if you were more a dutch or french speaking Belgian, but both is a valid answer tout pareil 😄

Qua moedertaal nederlands, mais j'habite tout près de Bruxelles donc je peux me débrouiller en français aussi...

random phone macro pic i had

Fancy looking place ~~but everything's broken XD~~

Everything got fixed... by smacking a fuse box <:KEKW:1047558816088199328>

Funny how small everything looked

The water here is about as transparent as tap water

probably tastes a bit saltier though

where you're traveling

it looks nice

Yeah... it's so salty I'm floating

Egypy

XD

appie club

it is forbidden to light a fire if there are people in the lift

<:KekDog:805390049033191445>

<:KEKW:1047558816088199328>

Vadofone™️

professional grade

I believe there's a picture in your noise

better than having picture in your artifacts

pesky pictures always ruining everything

I just hate noise smoothing for images

there are workarounds I can use my camera without it.

He likes noisy photos

Looks depressing. Is it Tver?

*he* crumbled to dust

Who?

It's just a lyric

||in fact, some dumb guy decided to pour out coal and shoot on the sidewalk||

📦

Lots of snow here in Belgium, and no one can climb the little "cliff" at the front of my house <:kekw:808717074305122316> Sorry for the discord recompression

Time to geo locate and steal some pizza <:CatSmile:805382488293244929>

Where in Belgium are you? I am now in transit in Dubai, returning to Belgium 🙂

Just in the middle of Liège and Verviers The snow should stay for a few days/a week at least<:Hypers:808826266060193874>

but the roads have not yet been salted

That means I've been close to where you live a few times <:KekDog:805390049033191445>

Here near Brussels all the snow was already gone by the time I landed

I thought you were Russian smh <:KekDog:805390049033191445>

Lol

Why though? <:KekDog:805390049033191445>

Another snow pic, just above the station of Fraipont <:BlobYay:806132268186861619> (not compressed by discord this time)

eh I don't remember, surely mis-interpretation of your old messages but not gonna search for them <:KekDog:805390049033191445>

so, ehm, where do you live? <:CatSmile:805382488293244929>

Somewhat close to you >:O

crisp

smoll burger <:PepeOK:805388754545934396>

https://files.catbox.moe/uyo8nm.jpg

Building for 👻?

https://libreddit.privacydev.net/r/jpegxl/comments/10y7v6z/looking_for_second_opinions_on_a_large_image/ lol I recognize this panorama! This is at the Getty museum :)

i wish i could make my home so clean & consistent

maybe someday...

disklabel(8)

This sensor suck

Bad color temperature

Looks like you took that photo while experience the worlds hardest earthquake ever <:monkaMega:809252622900789269>

There's nothing to fix

Steady hands™️

Or a stand which would be even better

How is this photo?

Better

good

Doors impersonators

Rheinfall

Swan in Luzern

partyyyy!

Wedding

Yours?

I first thought the shoes were tiny but in fact the dolls are huge 😅

The dolls are made of paper mass for "kasperlitheater"

(I made the drunken-guy doll)

playing with focus stacking

for close-ups that are sharp front to back

(sometimes too sharp – dust becomes painfully obvious)

why can't you make small iris, bigger shutter time and acceptable ISO

because of diffraction

elaborate

tho would be stunningly great for microscopy

narrow apertures give more depth of field but also increase diffraction, so more is in focus but what is in focus is not quite as sharp

https://photographylife.com/what-is-diffraction-in-photography

oh

it’s not so much of a problem if you can stop down to, say, f/8 (in 35mm-equivalent terms) and have enough in focus

but more so if you need f/22 for example

(although that still depends on how fine you need the details to be)

didn't go that hard but in microscope (old soviet) you have either screwed depth of field or details

(another potential annoying problem at very small apertures is that they make sensor dust more prominent)

i use kit optics, hate me

sorry, it didn’t come out quite right the first time, here it is with slightly more contrast/color

Britain

also i heard electric laws there are like only professionals can change the light bulb 💡

1939 here is more visible than on prev image

Really 😶

meanwhile in Ukraine you can diy all the wiring and use calibrated wire instead fuse

Not sure where you heard that, we used to just have open terminals you'd screw the wires into up until enough fatalities racked up that they became professional testing units only. While most of my family still doesn't know how to change a light bulb... It's certainly allowed

Do you still need a licence to buy a TV?

omfg

who uses TV nowadays

smart TV as a good big screen to cast macbook screen or watch yt

Meanwhile here I am watching TV at my Aunt's house every week unable to remove the terms and conditions popup because it needs internet to accept

internet overdose

We do have a TV license, but it's to watch channels not buy a TV. And even then you can just tell the collectors to go away since they're not official tax

only idiots introduce TV license, true chads do propaganda i am gonna stop because usually i get banned going further

I think it already went a tad off topic...

yes

for an idea of the depth of field in the input shots

can notice that the labels on the left and right aren't sharp in the same time