JPEG XL

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JPEG XL

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bot-spam

_wb_
2021-02-28 05:51:06
Twice as much life as me
Jyrki Alakuijala
Wooow, I'm 3rd? Holy shit...
2021-02-28 06:19:16
the ideal career development when moving away from data compression is to start enabling Mars missions (looking at Dr. Mark Adler) ๐Ÿ˜„
Deleted User
Jyrki Alakuijala the ideal career development when moving away from data compression is to start enabling Mars missions (looking at Dr. Mark Adler) ๐Ÿ˜„
2021-02-28 06:46:45
I'm not *that* ambitious ๐Ÿ˜„
2021-02-28 06:47:30
Even working at Nokia in image processing department would be too much to ask (despite it being my dream)
2021-02-28 06:49:38
By far I'm amazed by Finns, you've made awesome image compression tools and Juha Alakarhu made by far the most natural (still unbeatable) non-AI image denoising in Lumia phones.
2021-02-28 06:50:07
For example in this article: http://web.archive.org/web/20160501180003/https://blogs.windows.com/devices/2015/10/15/camera-magic-on-microsoft-lumia-950-and-lumia-950-xl/
Jyrki Alakuijala
2021-02-28 06:56:37
Finnish technology ๐Ÿ˜„
2021-02-28 06:56:59
I think I know exactly how to make denoising so that it matches human vision -- based on the butteraugli work
2021-02-28 06:57:35
should color denoising be a part of jxl encoder
2021-02-28 06:57:47
it fits the cameras itself better
2021-02-28 06:58:24
usually there is an unnecessarily high amount of red-green noise cameras
Deleted User
2021-02-28 06:59:53
This is a photo from Samsung Galaxy S6. Unfortunately barely anything changed from then, my Note 9 also sucks at natural-looking denoising.
2021-02-28 07:00:08
And this is a photo from a Lumia 950 XL. Beautiful color science, significantly more details (you can count her hair in this photo, which is impossible on the photo above), no ugly chroma noise at all and the luma noise... is that really noise? More like beautiful film grain! โค๏ธ
Jyrki Alakuijala
2021-02-28 07:00:23
it is not completely terrible
Deleted User
Jyrki Alakuijala it is not completely terrible
2021-02-28 07:01:35
You're talking about Galaxy photo?
Jyrki Alakuijala
2021-02-28 07:01:38
yes
2021-02-28 07:01:49
the lumia 950 xl photo looks ok
2021-02-28 07:02:05
the samsung photo looks a bit like median filtered
2021-02-28 07:02:25
sometimes the noise is below and othertimes above the treshold of sticking out
2021-02-28 07:02:30
and the result looks weird
2021-02-28 07:04:20
I feel that i the lumia photo the filtering does not take into account the shot-noise signal to noise ratio varying between the dark and bright areas
2021-02-28 07:04:45
of course it can be that filtering the luma was a non-goal for them
Deleted User
2021-02-28 07:04:51
Is this possible to replicate processes Lumia uses to process those photos? Look at them and "guesstimate" the algorithms? I fell in love with old (pre-HMD) Nokia's algorithms!
Jyrki Alakuijala
2021-02-28 07:05:16
yes, that's easy but not if we need to start from Samsung filtering ๐Ÿ˜„
fab
2021-02-28 07:06:01
https://www.hdblog.it/smartphone/test-foto/n533800/galaxy-s21-ultra-miglior-camera-phone/ here there is a raw file
2021-02-28 07:06:22
but it looks bad to me
2021-02-28 07:06:30
is only fog
Jyrki Alakuijala
2021-02-28 07:06:39
bring it to jpeg xl with xyb, and smooth in x and b
2021-02-28 07:06:59
(it is not quite that easy ๐Ÿ™‚
2021-02-28 07:07:10
but that is already better than most approaches
Deleted User
2021-02-28 07:08:38
The only thing that gets close to Nokia is Topaz DeNoise AI, but not only it requires quite powerful PC, but also (currently) it leaves ugly low-frequency chroma noise...
Jyrki Alakuijala
2021-02-28 07:13:36
it seems to me that this should be done in the camera itself, not afterwards
Deleted User
2021-02-28 07:14:07
Not only processing, Nokia/Microsoft also used first class Zeiss optics, while Samsung uses some no-name shit (probably their own, designed in-house)
2021-02-28 07:15:33
I've looked at my own Note 9 RAW files and they're not as sharp as Lumia's (no wonder they have to resort to software oversharpening if they cheap out on optics), they also exhibit more noise.
Jyrki Alakuijala
2021-02-28 07:15:36
it depends on photon counting noise (frequency response of the pixels on the camera, on light sensitivity, time), thermal noise etc.
2021-02-28 07:31:17
--progressive_dc is helpful on the anime at least for butteraugli
2021-02-28 07:31:37
something like 5-10 % improvement (less on better quality, more on lower quality)
2021-02-28 07:32:30
other improvements are another 5-10 %
2021-02-28 07:32:36
but a long way to go still ๐Ÿ™‚
2021-02-28 07:46:52
previous
2021-02-28 07:47:43
from internal head with --progressive_dc
2021-02-28 07:48:06
these are at 0.2 bpp
fab
2021-02-28 07:48:19
and the other
Jyrki Alakuijala
2021-02-28 07:48:22
-d 17 and -d 14
2021-02-28 07:49:23
they are at 0.201 and 0.208 bpp
2021-02-28 07:49:52
the first one is without --progressive_dc -- which helps about 7 % for these images at these qualities
2021-02-28 07:50:57
the first image 'previous' already includes some improvements from 0.3.2 -- possibly around 3 %
2021-02-28 07:51:36
I believe another 10 % is possible for these
2021-02-28 07:52:34
ah, the bitrates for these images are 0.108 and 0.113, I was looking at corpus level rates
2021-02-28 07:52:57
previous
2021-02-28 07:53:27
progressive_dc + improvements
2021-02-28 07:54:22
the needle is moving, just sloooow
2021-02-28 07:55:08
these were with 0.240 and 0.252 bpp
2021-02-28 07:55:35
also -d 17 and -d 14 ((*****SIGH*****))
Deleted User
2021-02-28 07:58:09
I can already see increase in quality, good job <@!532010383041363969>! ๐Ÿ˜ƒ
2021-02-28 07:58:26
And let's move to <#803645746661425173>
Jyrki Alakuijala
2021-02-28 07:58:42
ops, why am I in bot-spam
Crixis
Jyrki Alakuijala from internal head with --progressive_dc
2021-02-28 09:00:34
f*** this is so much better
Jyrki Alakuijala progressive_dc + improvements
2021-02-28 09:03:15
This also!!
Arcane
2021-03-01 10:31:45
<@794205442175402004> has reached level **31**. GG!
2021-03-01 08:07:06
<@461421345302118401> has reached level **9**. GG!
2021-03-02 06:44:11
<@456226577798135808> has reached level **16**. GG!
2021-03-02 06:59:51
<@710263461803982850> has reached level **1**. GG!
Nova Aurora
2021-03-02 07:28:40
Roughly how many messages does it take to level up?
Master Of Zen
2021-03-02 07:35:21
bot spam
2021-03-02 07:35:34
alb
Arcane
2021-03-02 07:35:35
2021-03-02 08:26:00
<@710263461803982850> has reached level **2**. GG!
2021-03-02 10:57:00
<@532010383041363969> has reached level **16**. GG!
2021-03-02 11:16:14
<@178524721023811584> has reached level **6**. GG!
spider-mario
2021-03-02 12:59:01
ahelp
Arcane
2021-03-02 12:59:01
spider-mario
2021-03-02 12:59:36
auserinfo
Arcane
2021-03-02 12:59:36
spider-mario
2021-03-02 12:59:42
no level?
2021-03-02 12:59:50
ah
2021-03-02 12:59:51
alevel
Arcane
2021-03-02 12:59:51
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2021-03-02 06:44:00
<@321486891079696385> has reached level **9**. GG!
2021-03-03 05:57:18
<@111445179587624960> has reached level **17**. GG!
fab
2021-03-03 07:35:57
alb
Nova Aurora
2021-03-03 07:39:09
see you in a few hours when the bot responds
Arcane
2021-03-03 07:55:43
<@799692065771749416> has reached level **9**. GG!
2021-03-03 08:16:47
<@561783021431422987> has reached level **2**. GG!
2021-03-03 11:08:35
Deleted User
2021-03-03 11:11:11
Oh, no longer on the podium. Jyrki deserves that place more, though.
2021-03-03 11:11:27
But will he dethrone Scope?
Nova Aurora
2021-03-03 11:19:43
4 hours lol
Arcane
2021-03-04 08:44:01
<@799692065771749416> has reached level **10**. GG!
2021-03-04 09:57:39
<@139947707975467009> has reached level **6**. GG!
2021-03-05 04:22:24
<@424295816929345538> has reached level **14**. GG!
2021-03-05 04:58:02
<@416586441058025472> has reached level **14**. GG!
Nova Aurora
2021-03-05 05:10:34
rip my position on the leaderboard
2021-03-05 05:13:04
love Fox Wizard's profile pic
fab
2021-03-05 05:16:22
aavatar <@!416586441058025472>
Arcane
2021-03-05 05:16:22
diskorduser
2021-03-05 06:13:18
Fabian level 9999 soon โ„ข๏ธ
fab
2021-03-05 06:14:17
alb
Arcane
2021-03-05 06:14:53
Nova Aurora
2021-03-05 06:42:07
I'm safe until the next fabian spam
Arcane
2021-03-05 07:13:49
<@179701849576833024> has reached level **10**. GG!
Deleted User
2021-03-05 11:41:14
Wait, I'm 3rd again? Come on Jyrki, you can do better ๐Ÿ˜‰
Scope
2021-03-06 12:31:26
Arcane
2021-03-06 07:04:44
<@794205442175402004> has reached level **32**. GG!
2021-03-06 12:12:20
<@532010383041363969> has reached level **17**. GG!
Jyrki Alakuijala
Wait, I'm 3rd again? Come on Jyrki, you can do better ๐Ÿ˜‰
2021-03-06 12:13:33
does commenting on bot-spam count ๐Ÿ˜„
_wb_
2021-03-06 12:33:09
I think it does
Crixis
2021-03-06 01:53:51
from discord to cookie clicker
Arcane
2021-03-06 02:23:16
<@172952901075992586> has reached level **5**. GG!
Nova Aurora
Crixis from discord to cookie clicker
2021-03-06 06:18:13
Gotta keep up your stats! Put more grandma's to work in the mines!
Arcane
2021-03-06 07:20:44
<@321486891079696385> has reached level **10**. GG!
2021-03-07 12:29:45
<@720988177648713819> has reached level **3**. GG!
2021-03-07 02:24:13
<@416586441058025472> has reached level **15**. GG!
fab
2021-03-07 02:24:18
alb
Arcane
2021-03-07 02:24:19
Crixis
2021-03-07 02:33:10
I'm losing it, I swear
spider-mario
2021-03-07 02:35:16
alevel
Arcane
2021-03-07 02:35:16
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_wb_
2021-03-07 02:37:55
arewards
Arcane
2021-03-07 02:37:55
_wb_
2021-03-07 02:39:52
Soon the first early adopters will reach the level that would have made the bot give them that discord role
2021-03-07 02:40:43
And then in a few weeks we may have the first <@&811574181426495489> member(s)!
Arcane
2021-03-07 03:36:41
<@172952901075992586> has reached level **6**. GG!
2021-03-07 04:03:08
<@604964375924834314> has reached level **9**. GG!
2021-03-07 04:48:38
<@179701849576833024> has reached level **11**. GG!
_wb_
<@179701849576833024> has reached level **11**. GG!
2021-03-07 04:57:43
https://c.tenor.com/fCZRRyjdCzMAAAAM/edo-spinal-tap.gif
Arcane
2021-03-07 05:03:52
<@172952901075992586> has reached level **7**. GG!
2021-03-07 07:52:44
<@792428046497611796> has reached level **1**. GG!
2021-03-08 05:32:59
<@189200317332717578> has reached level **2**. GG!
2021-03-08 05:49:50
<@224363555074342912> has reached level **16**. GG!
Nova Aurora
2021-03-08 05:49:56
alb
Arcane
2021-03-08 05:49:57
Nova Aurora
2021-03-08 04:36:18
aavatar <@!219525188818042881>
Arcane
2021-03-08 04:36:18
Nova Aurora
2021-03-08 04:36:28
Adorable
Fox Wizard
2021-03-08 04:36:36
<a:FoxClap:807247796079820851>
Arcane
2021-03-08 10:51:10
<@260412131034267649> has reached level **2**. GG!
Nova Aurora
Fox Wizard <a:FoxClap:807247796079820851>
2021-03-08 10:55:43
how many fox emotes do you have?
Fox Wizard
2021-03-08 10:55:50
Ehmm...
Nova Aurora how many fox emotes do you have?
2021-03-08 11:01:46
This many
2021-03-08 11:01:47
2021-03-08 11:03:10
<:RaysE:686219918085062725>
Arcane
2021-03-09 05:14:49
<@794205442175402004> has reached level **33**. GG!
2021-03-09 08:44:51
<@178524721023811584> has reached level **7**. GG!
2021-03-09 11:19:14
<@284160100510466048> has reached level **2**. GG!
2021-03-10 02:13:15
<@336697008356327444> has reached level **5**. GG!
2021-03-10 08:21:58
<@798489736812560425> has reached level **1**. GG!
2021-03-10 09:39:36
<@768090355546587137> has reached level **1**. GG!
Nova Aurora
2021-03-10 04:40:06
alb
Fox Wizard
2021-03-10 04:41:03
alb
Arcane
2021-03-10 04:41:53
Fox Wizard
2021-03-10 04:42:00
Hm, the bot is online, but doesn't reply. Last time I saw that happening it spammed the whole chat with all commands an hour later XD
2021-03-10 04:42:01
alb
Arcane
2021-03-10 04:42:02
Fox Wizard
2021-03-10 04:42:03
alb
Arcane
2021-03-10 04:42:04
โŒ **Fox Wizard#2183 you are on cooldown.** Please wait 29 seconds before running **leaderboard** again.
Fox Wizard
2021-03-10 04:42:06
Sad
Arcane
2021-03-10 04:42:54
Nova Aurora
2021-03-10 04:44:49
Friend_besto is still hanging onto their place for now
Arcane
2021-03-10 06:03:45
<@172952901075992586> has reached level **8**. GG!
Deleted User
2021-03-11 12:17:12
How did he reach such a high level so damn quickly?
Nova Aurora
2021-03-11 12:25:54
https://tenor.com/view/spam-spam-intensifies-yum-gif-13948300
Arcane
2021-03-11 05:48:20
<@427945413669158912> has reached level **1**. GG!
2021-03-11 06:12:07
<@404585766799278081> has reached level **1**. GG!
2021-03-11 07:12:10
<@284160100510466048> has reached level **3**. GG!
Fox Wizard
2021-03-11 08:22:35
<:Spam:806628077656473650>
Arcane
2021-03-11 09:40:35
<@111445179587624960> has reached level **18**. GG!
2021-03-11 10:02:37
<@604964375924834314> has reached level **10**. GG!
2021-03-11 12:00:07
<@456226577798135808> has reached level **17**. GG!
Crixis
2021-03-11 02:14:55
https://tenor.com/view/calculating-puzzled-math-confused-confused-look-gif-14677181
Arcane
2021-03-11 02:19:34
<@416586441058025472> has reached level **16**. GG!
fab
2021-03-11 02:19:57
alb
Arcane
2021-03-11 02:19:58
2021-03-11 02:30:06
<@424295816929345538> has reached level **15**. GG!
2021-03-12 06:23:22
<@792428046497611796> has reached level **2**. GG!
2021-03-12 12:23:46
<@798489736812560425> has reached level **2**. GG!
2021-03-13 05:38:39
<@427945413669158912> has reached level **2**. GG!
2021-03-13 06:16:55
<@404585766799278081> has reached level **2**. GG!
2021-03-13 06:53:21
<@794205442175402004> has reached level **34**. GG!
2021-03-14 06:37:35
<@548366727663321098> has reached level **5**. GG!
2021-03-14 09:29:45
<@258670228819410944> has reached level **11**. GG!
Master Of Zen
2021-03-14 09:30:40
alb
Arcane
2021-03-14 09:30:41
BlueSwordM
2021-03-14 09:31:06
alb
Arcane
2021-03-14 09:31:07
_wb_
<@258670228819410944> has reached level **11**. GG!
2021-03-14 09:53:52
https://c.tenor.com/G14TSBu9gcMAAAAM/this-is-spinal-tap-this-goes-to11.gif
Arcane
2021-03-16 12:37:54
<@821163841370849302> has reached level **1**. GG!
2021-03-16 04:47:25
<@263309374775230465> has reached level **5**. GG!
2021-03-16 07:51:14
<@111445179587624960> has reached level **19**. GG!
2021-03-16 10:19:36
<@132637059327328256> has reached level **1**. GG!
2021-03-16 10:35:25
<@132637059327328256> has reached level **2**. GG!
2021-03-16 02:45:00
<@172952901075992586> has reached level **9**. GG!
Crixis
2021-03-16 02:57:08
Arcane
2021-03-16 04:06:13
<@532010383041363969> has reached level **18**. GG!
Nova Aurora
2021-03-16 04:06:21
alb
Arcane
2021-03-16 04:06:24
2021-03-16 05:02:08
<@321486891079696385> has reached level **11**. GG!
_wb_
<@321486891079696385> has reached level **11**. GG!
2021-03-16 05:10:31
https://tenor.com/view/spinal-tap-numbers-go-to11-gif-4660832
Arcane
2021-03-16 10:45:05
<@794205442175402004> has reached level **35**. GG!
2021-03-16 11:46:42
<@165998239273844736> has reached level **1**. GG!
2021-03-16 11:58:02
<@799692065771749416> has reached level **11**. GG!
_wb_
<@799692065771749416> has reached level **11**. GG!
2021-03-17 05:50:57
https://c.tenor.com/wn4Y-z9wZ78AAAAM/guitar.gif
Nova Aurora
2021-03-17 05:51:18
alb
Arcane
2021-03-17 05:51:19
_wb_
2021-03-17 05:58:56
arewards
Arcane
2021-03-17 05:58:56
Fox Wizard
2021-03-17 06:49:16
Gotta love being ``early adopter`` before reaching level 18 <a:DogeEvil:821038587176419381>
Arcane
2021-03-17 09:33:57
<@792428046497611796> has reached level **3**. GG!
2021-03-17 09:57:39
<@179701849576833024> has reached level **12**. GG!
2021-03-17 11:52:08
<@416586441058025472> has reached level **17**. GG!
fab
2021-03-17 11:56:12
alb
Arcane
2021-03-17 01:53:15
<@811568887577444363> has reached level **2**. GG!
2021-03-17 07:38:11
<@71094404491771904> has reached level **1**. GG!
Nova Aurora
fab alb
2021-03-17 07:50:18
wow the bot is slow today
2021-03-17 07:50:21
alb
Arcane
2021-03-17 07:50:23
Nova Aurora
2021-03-17 07:50:54
I've been overtaken ๐Ÿ˜ข
Arcane
2021-03-17 07:54:33
<@71094404491771904> has reached level **2**. GG!
spider-mario
2021-03-17 08:46:27
alevel
Arcane
2021-03-17 08:46:28
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spider-mario
2021-03-17 08:46:38
almost cranked up to 11
Nova Aurora
2021-03-17 08:47:02
alevel
Arcane
2021-03-17 08:47:03
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Nova Aurora
2021-03-17 08:47:43
does checking the leaderboard give you more xp?
_wb_
2021-03-17 08:50:40
I think you get a random amount of exp for every minute in which you were chatting
2021-03-17 08:51:20
So spamming lots of messages does not help, unless you leave one minute in between
2021-03-17 08:55:41
I should probably exclude this channel from giving exp though, lol
Arcane
2021-03-17 10:02:25
<@736666062879195236> has reached level **1**. GG!
2021-03-18 11:01:18
<@604964375924834314> has reached level **11**. GG!
_wb_
<@604964375924834314> has reached level **11**. GG!
2021-03-18 12:10:18
https://c.tenor.com/xOBgSxpKySsAAAAM/spinal-tap-no-more-black.gif
Arcane
2021-03-18 12:20:39
<@792428046497611796> has reached level **5**. GG!
2021-03-18 02:56:11
<@416586441058025472> has reached level **18**. GG!
fab
2021-03-18 02:56:20
alb
Arcane
2021-03-18 02:56:21
Nova Aurora
2021-03-18 03:21:08
fabian's going places
Arcane
2021-03-18 05:27:03
<@710263461803982850> has reached level **4**. GG!
2021-03-18 08:34:45
<@111445179587624960> has reached level **20**. GG!
2021-03-18 09:10:52
<@224363555074342912> has reached level **17**. GG!
2021-03-18 10:45:02
<@685944681955328025> has reached level **1**. GG!
2021-03-18 11:26:08
<@245794734788837387> has reached level **1**. GG!
2021-03-18 11:30:36
<@720988177648713819> has reached level **4**. GG!
2021-03-18 11:32:10
<@427945413669158912> has reached level **3**. GG!
Nova Aurora
2021-03-19 03:30:51
alb
Arcane
2021-03-19 03:30:52
2021-03-19 04:26:42
<@427945413669158912> has reached level **4**. GG!
Deleted User
2021-03-19 08:11:39
NO WAY
2021-03-19 08:11:57
FABIAN OVERTOOK ME
2021-03-19 08:12:09
<:kekw:808717074305122316>
Fox Wizard
2021-03-19 08:37:10
<a:sadd:818856865231405117>
Arcane
2021-03-19 11:44:28
<@794205442175402004> has reached level **36**. GG!
fab
2021-03-19 11:54:37
alb
Arcane
2021-03-19 11:54:37
2021-03-19 02:07:35
<@456226577798135808> has reached level **7**. GG!
2021-03-19 02:28:16
<@263309374775230465> has reached level **6**. GG!
2021-03-19 02:50:20
<@720988177648713819> has reached level **5**. GG!
Deleted User
2021-03-19 02:59:50
WHAAAAT THE FUCK
2021-03-19 03:00:43
Fabian on the podium, I didn't think that might actually happen <:monkaMega:809252622900789269>
Nova Aurora
Fabian on the podium, I didn't think that might actually happen <:monkaMega:809252622900789269>
2021-03-19 03:01:19
https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-flying-circus-spam-gif-15349845
Scope
2021-03-19 03:05:38
A little more effort and Fabian will be the first expert on the server
Nova Aurora
2021-03-19 03:06:28
arewards
Arcane
2021-03-19 03:06:28
Nova Aurora
Scope A little more effort and Fabian will be the first expert on the server
2021-03-19 03:06:47
_wb_ is already there
Deleted User
2021-03-19 03:06:55
https://tenor.com/view/spam-spam-intensifies-yum-gif-13948300
Scope
2021-03-19 03:08:27
Developers are experts by default, we need more geniuses
Nova Aurora
Scope Developers are experts by default, we need more geniuses
2021-03-19 03:09:58
Scope
2021-03-19 03:12:48
I meant real experts
Arcane
2021-03-19 03:24:06
<@792428046497611796> has reached level **6**. GG!
Crixis
2021-03-20 07:00:52
Arcane
2021-03-20 05:53:37
<@456226577798135808> has reached level **18**. GG!
Deleted User
2021-03-20 05:53:46
alb
Arcane
2021-03-20 05:53:47
2021-03-20 06:08:30
<@260412131034267649> has reached level **3**. GG!
Crixis
2021-03-20 06:50:57
<:SadCat:805389277247701002>
Arcane
2021-03-21 04:55:27
<@604964375924834314> has reached level **12**. GG!
Deleted User
2021-03-21 05:01:29
alb
Arcane
2021-03-21 05:01:30
2021-03-21 05:20:06
<@164917458182864897> has reached level **5**. GG!
2021-03-21 07:23:01
<@685944681955328025> has reached level **2**. GG!
2021-03-22 11:34:29
<@424295816929345538> has reached level **16**. GG!
2021-03-22 01:49:31
<@794205442175402004> has reached level **37**. GG!
2021-03-22 04:13:20
<@219525188818042881> has reached level **13**. GG!
2021-03-22 04:44:21
<@132637059327328256> has reached level **4**. GG!
2021-03-22 07:02:47
<@132637059327328256> has reached level **5**. GG!
2021-03-22 08:43:43
<@416586441058025472> has reached level **19**. GG!
2021-03-22 08:56:21
<@685944681955328025> has reached level **3**. GG!
Deleted User
2021-03-22 09:35:58
alb
Arcane
2021-03-22 09:36:00
zebefree
2021-03-22 10:54:07
It's like RDO where D=1 ๐Ÿ˜
Arcane
2021-03-23 10:23:51
<@792428046497611796> has reached level **7**. GG!
2021-03-23 06:02:44
<@96936166682554368> has reached level **1**. GG!
2021-03-23 06:29:25
<@96936166682554368> has reached level **2**. GG!
2021-03-23 06:58:01
<@96936166682554368> has reached level **3**. GG!
2021-03-23 06:59:47
<@179701849576833024> has reached level **13**. GG!
2021-03-23 07:39:22
<@96936166682554368> has reached level **4**. GG!
Nova Aurora
2021-03-23 09:37:27
alb
Arcane
2021-03-23 09:37:29
Nova Aurora
2021-03-23 09:37:53
F for our fallen Friend_Besto
NeRd
2021-03-24 06:03:58
F
Arcane
2021-03-24 06:03:58
<@404585766799278081> has reached level **3**. GG!
2021-03-24 07:19:54
<@795684063032901642> has reached level **2**. GG!
2021-03-24 08:27:28
<@263309374775230465> has reached level **7**. GG!
2021-03-24 09:09:59
<@456226577798135808> has reached level **19**. GG!
2021-03-24 09:41:22
<@132637059327328256> has reached level **6**. GG!
spider-mario
2021-03-24 11:23:12
oh, am I really in the top 10 now?
Arcane
2021-03-24 11:56:08
<@461421345302118401> has reached level **10**. GG!
diskorduser
2021-03-24 12:18:48
alb
Arcane
2021-03-24 12:18:49
2021-03-24 07:10:50
<@794205442175402004> has reached level **38**. GG!
2021-03-25 06:26:59
<@263300458888691714> has reached level **1**. GG!
Deleted User
2021-03-25 06:08:00
alb
Arcane
2021-03-25 06:08:01
2021-03-25 08:27:44
<@416586441058025472> has reached level **20**. GG!
2021-03-25 08:56:20
<@111445179587624960> has reached level **21**. GG!
2021-03-25 10:25:53
<@132637059327328256> has reached level **7**. GG!
2021-03-26 06:28:44
<@716705464448057375> has reached level **1**. GG!
2021-03-26 03:05:11
<@263309374775230465> has reached level **8**. GG!
2021-03-26 05:15:47
<@792428046497611796> has reached level **8**. GG!
2021-03-26 11:04:44
<@139947707975467009> has reached level **7**. GG!
2021-03-27 01:04:36
<@321486891079696385> has reached level **12**. GG!
2021-03-27 11:31:51
<@263300458888691714> has reached level **2**. GG!
Deleted User
2021-03-27 02:54:36
alb
Arcane
2021-03-27 02:54:41
2021-03-27 08:45:59
<@799692065771749416> has reached level **12**. GG!
2021-03-28 06:28:37
<@228116142185512960> has reached level **2**. GG!
2021-03-28 07:15:39
<@228116142185512960> has reached level **3**. GG!
2021-03-29 09:25:32
<@401126039566417923> has reached level **1**. GG!
2021-03-29 10:16:52
<@794205442175402004> has reached level **39**. GG!
Deleted User
2021-03-29 10:31:07
alb
Arcane
2021-03-29 10:31:08
2021-03-29 10:36:51
<@263300458888691714> has reached level **3**. GG!
2021-03-29 11:22:23
<@436097739391107072> has reached level **1**. GG!
2021-03-29 11:52:40
<@132637059327328256> has reached level **8**. GG!
2021-03-29 05:42:43
<@228116142185512960> has reached level **4**. GG!
2021-03-29 05:43:50
<@436097739391107072> has reached level **2**. GG!
2021-03-29 07:05:59
<@768090355546587137> has reached level **2**. GG!
2021-03-29 09:59:23
<@436097739391107072> has reached level **3**. GG!
2021-03-30 03:50:26
<@436097739391107072> has reached level **4**. GG!
2021-03-30 05:06:02
<@722852650655154287> has reached level **1**. GG!
2021-03-30 05:21:28
<@722852650655154287> has reached level **2**. GG!
2021-03-30 05:47:58
<@228116142185512960> has reached level **5**. GG!
2021-03-30 06:53:56
<@179701849576833024> has reached level **14**. GG!
2021-03-30 08:52:51
<@722852650655154287> has reached level **3**. GG!
2021-03-30 09:23:38
<@436097739391107072> has reached level **5**. GG!
2021-03-30 10:00:07
<@722852650655154287> has reached level **4**. GG!
2021-03-31 10:19:34
<@436097739391107072> has reached level **6**. GG!
2021-03-31 12:08:20
<@710762823986446367> has reached level **1**. GG!
2021-03-31 03:51:45
<@826537092669767691> has reached level **1**. GG!
2021-03-31 08:49:13
<@211191520768819201> has reached level **1**. GG!
2021-04-01 07:00:00
<@794205442175402004> has reached level **40**. GG!
2021-04-02 06:29:53
<@387462082418704387> has reached level **1**. GG!
2021-04-02 11:30:03
<@532010383041363969> has reached level **19**. GG!
2021-04-02 12:14:12
<@456226577798135808> has reached level **20**. GG!
2021-04-03 11:28:38
<@211191520768819201> has reached level **2**. GG!
2021-04-04 01:50:47
<@416586441058025472> has reached level **21**. GG!
fab
2021-04-04 01:50:55
alb
Arcane
2021-04-04 01:50:56
2021-04-04 10:29:28
<@111445179587624960> has reached level **22**. GG!
2021-04-05 11:26:08
<@810102077895344159> has reached level **5**. GG!
2021-04-06 06:12:08
<@387462082418704387> has reached level **2**. GG!
2021-04-06 05:28:03
<@263300458888691714> has reached level **4**. GG!
2021-04-06 09:31:55
<@794205442175402004> has reached level **41**. GG!
2021-04-08 12:07:17
<@172952901075992586> has reached level **10**. GG!
2021-04-08 12:22:05
<@245794734788837387> has reached level **2**. GG!
2021-04-08 01:21:15
<@561783021431422987> has reached level **3**. GG!
2021-04-08 08:27:17
<@604964375924834314> has reached level **13**. GG!
2021-04-08 12:16:33
<@557099078337560596> has reached level **1**. GG!
Crixis
2021-04-08 12:41:19
please, tell me that he is a troll
Arcane
2021-04-08 12:44:16
<@424295816929345538> has reached level **17**. GG!
2021-04-09 02:08:00
<@456226577798135808> has reached level **1**. GG!
2021-04-09 02:17:26
<@456226577798135808> has reached level **2**. GG!
2021-04-09 02:32:45
<@456226577798135808> has reached level **3**. GG!
2021-04-09 04:38:59
<@416586441058025472> has reached level **22**. GG!
2021-04-09 04:39:03
<@456226577798135808> has reached level **4**. GG!
fab
2021-04-09 04:40:37
alb
Arcane
2021-04-09 04:40:41
2021-04-09 11:10:29
<@164917458182864897> has reached level **6**. GG!
2021-04-10 03:21:40
<@231086792315633664> has reached level **6**. GG!
2021-04-10 03:32:37
<@799692065771749416> has reached level **13**. GG!
2021-04-10 06:56:30
<@231086792315633664> has reached level **7**. GG!
2021-04-12 02:26:55
<@427945413669158912> has reached level **5**. GG!
2021-04-12 11:46:08
<@264189852617146368> has reached level **1**. GG!
jzxf
<@264189852617146368> has reached level **1**. GG!
2021-04-12 11:48:25
yay, I think? ๐Ÿ˜…
Arcane
2021-04-12 12:38:09
<@102750438675202048> has reached level **1**. GG!
2021-04-12 01:35:26
<@264189852617146368> has reached level **2**. GG!
2021-04-12 01:40:52
<@440633300302692352> has reached level **1**. GG!
pogmoment
2021-04-12 01:40:58
bruh
Nova Aurora
bruh
2021-04-12 04:54:07
<:Poggers:805392625934663710> moment
pogmoment
2021-04-12 05:13:50
pogging
Arcane
2021-04-12 06:42:14
<@456226577798135808> has reached level **21**. GG!
2021-04-12 07:58:42
<@770562719207784459> has reached level **2**. GG!
Deleted User
2021-04-13 01:34:04
alb
Arcane
2021-04-13 01:34:06
2021-04-13 08:15:41
<@179701849576833024> has reached level **15**. GG!
2021-04-13 10:37:07
<@720988177648713819> has reached level **6**. GG!
2021-04-13 02:43:41
<@593682055808811009> has reached level **5**. GG!
2021-04-13 03:48:47
<@231086792315633664> has reached level **8**. GG!
Nova Aurora
2021-04-14 03:24:38
arank
Arcane
2021-04-14 03:24:38
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Nova Aurora
2021-04-14 03:24:52
arewards
Arcane
2021-04-14 03:24:52
2021-04-14 03:35:40
<@224363555074342912> has reached level **18**. GG!
2021-04-14 04:03:31
<@310374889540550660> has reached level **1**. GG!
2021-04-14 04:14:29
<@310374889540550660> has reached level **2**. GG!
fab
2021-04-14 05:34:36
alb
Arcane
2021-04-14 05:34:36
2021-04-14 05:53:40
<@258670228819410944> has reached level **12**. GG!
2021-04-14 06:52:21
<@416586441058025472> has reached level **23**. GG!
2021-04-14 08:34:49
<@260412131034267649> has reached level **4**. GG!
2021-04-14 11:57:13
<@393493487938568194> has reached level **1**. GG!
2021-04-15 12:45:25
<@321486891079696385> has reached level **13**. GG!
Deleted User
2021-04-15 02:13:17
arank
Arcane
2021-04-15 02:13:18
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2021-04-15 06:48:50
<@108576790196297728> has reached level **1**. GG!
2021-04-15 12:40:04
<@456226577798135808> has reached level **8**. GG!
2021-04-15 07:41:26
<@416586441058025472> has reached level **24**. GG!
fab
2021-04-15 07:41:37
alb
Arcane
2021-04-15 07:41:38
2021-04-16 02:55:10
<@427945413669158912> has reached level **6**. GG!
2021-04-16 03:17:31
<@801963509898149908> has reached level **1**. GG!
2021-04-17 04:57:51
<@801963509898149908> has reached level **2**. GG!
fab
2021-04-17 05:31:41
alb
Arcane
2021-04-17 05:31:42
2021-04-17 06:39:58
<@799692065771749416> has reached level **14**. GG!
zebefree
2021-04-17 06:44:43
An algorithm that designates an obvious non-expert as an expert is harmful to the community. Can someone raise the expert threshold before that happens? Or preferably fix the algorithm.
_wb_
2021-04-17 07:04:32
Uh
2021-04-17 07:07:44
You have a point, I guess
2021-04-17 07:15:16
I am giving myself and Fabian the role "chatty", which disables exp gaining by chatting
zebefree
2021-04-17 07:16:15
Oh, that sounds like it should work.
_wb_
2021-04-17 07:17:16
Level 42 is my final level, that is fine
2021-04-17 07:17:36
And Fabian gets stuck at 24, also fine
zebefree
2021-04-17 07:18:09
it is fine until you get some competition ๐Ÿ˜
_wb_
2021-04-17 07:18:32
I would be happy to be out of that leaderboard
Fox Wizard
2021-04-17 07:18:52
Gotta reset your xp then :p
Deleted User
_wb_ Level 42 is my final level, that is fine
2021-04-17 09:04:43
Well, it's the answer to life, the universe and everything, so you should be proud ๐Ÿ˜‰
Arcane
2021-04-18 12:06:36
<@456226577798135808> has reached level **1**. GG!
2021-04-18 05:33:12
<@263300458888691714> has reached level **5**. GG!
2021-04-18 01:11:52
<@557099078337560596> has reached level **2**. GG!
2021-04-18 06:35:56
<@456226577798135808> has reached level **1**. GG!
fab
2021-04-18 06:37:50
alb
Arcane
2021-04-18 06:37:53
2021-04-19 07:49:33
<@263309374775230465> has reached level **9**. GG!
2021-04-19 07:50:09
<@548366727663321098> has reached level **6**. GG!
fab
2021-04-19 08:25:47
alb
monad
zebefree An algorithm that designates an obvious non-expert as an expert is harmful to the community. Can someone raise the expert threshold before that happens? Or preferably fix the algorithm.
2021-04-19 10:14:56
Harmful in what way?
zebefree
monad Harmful in what way?
2021-04-19 10:28:11
If someone that has been assigned the "expert" role appears to not know what they are doing, that will lead people to believe that that is the best that this server has to offer and they should not waste their time.
2021-04-19 10:28:53
At least the other auto-assigned roles like curious and early adopter do not imply any particular skill level.
monad
2021-04-19 11:27:10
This sounds unlikely. Such a user ignores the message content of non-'expert's, ignores <#805414133788180491>, ignores the fact 'expert's are also 'noob's, and ignores their own roles which include 'noob'. For a user skilled enough to evaluate other users, an awareness of any of these things should inform that roles do not necessarily reflect skill. I'm not sure why someone caring about roles would decide 'expert' indicates more skill than 'core dev' anyway.
Arcane
2021-04-20 04:29:17
<@427945413669158912> has reached level **7**. GG!
Scientia
2021-04-20 04:29:42
๐Ÿ‘
Scope
2021-04-20 05:12:48
I think it would be better to replace the expert role with something like an active user
_wb_
2021-04-20 05:34:38
"active user" doesn't sound very great, any role name suggestions?
Scope
2021-04-20 05:39:06
And maybe remove noob and curious because they create a lot of unnecessary roles and do not mean anything meaningful (except that the user at least wrote something)
monad
2021-04-20 05:40:44
None of them mean anything meaningful--they all just represent server activity.
2021-04-20 05:43:03
As it is, it's basically thematic roleplaying. No problem with that, IMO.
Scientia
2021-04-20 05:43:14
curious is OK, idk about noob maybe that could be replaced with something like "newcomer"
Arcane
2021-04-20 06:05:07
<@456226577798135808> has reached level **2**. GG!
Scope
2021-04-20 06:05:26
Yes, I mean roles are an indication of user activity on the server, but 1-2 levels is very low and does not represent any information (almost the same as no role), but it creates unnecessary overload with the number of roles
2021-04-20 06:07:17
Or maybe raise the level to get them
_wb_
2021-04-20 06:51:59
arewards
Arcane
2021-04-20 06:51:59
_wb_
2021-04-20 06:52:33
better?
2021-04-20 06:53:17
I'm also dropping the chatty role
monad
2021-04-20 06:54:43
Looks good. 'early adopter' is perhaps the most misleading now.
_wb_
2021-04-20 06:58:10
it is a bit of a special role since it was given to people who have been here from the start of the discord
Arcane
2021-04-20 07:01:39
<@416586441058025472> has reached level **25**. GG!
monad
2021-04-20 07:02:16
Right on cue.
Arcane
2021-04-20 09:13:11
<@404585766799278081> has reached level **4**. GG!
2021-04-20 12:43:21
<@111445179587624960> has reached level **23**. GG!
2021-04-20 02:12:34
<@604964375924834314> has reached level **14**. GG!
2021-04-20 05:01:00
<@231086792315633664> has reached level **9**. GG!
Nova Aurora
2021-04-20 06:05:37
alb
Arcane
2021-04-20 06:05:38
2021-04-20 08:57:42
<@164917458182864897> has reached level **7**. GG!
2021-04-21 06:19:31
<@557099078337560596> has reached level **3**. GG!
2021-04-21 07:51:04
<@532010383041363969> has reached level **20**. GG!
2021-04-21 12:09:10
<@387462082418704387> has reached level **3**. GG!
2021-04-21 05:26:34
<@416586441058025472> has reached level **26**. GG!
2021-04-21 05:59:38
<@427945413669158912> has reached level **8**. GG!
2021-04-21 06:16:58
<@424295816929345538> has reached level **18**. GG!
2021-04-21 06:18:04
<@179701849576833024> has reached level **16**. GG!
fab
2021-04-22 09:31:58
alb
Arcane
2021-04-22 09:31:59
2021-04-22 01:30:01
<@794205442175402004> has reached level **43**. GG!
2021-04-22 03:20:31
<@416586441058025472> has reached level **27**. GG!
2021-04-22 09:29:24
<@768090355546587137> has reached level **3**. GG!
2021-04-22 10:44:56
<@427945413669158912> has reached level **9**. GG!
2021-04-23 03:27:53
<@456226577798135808> has reached level **3**. GG!
2021-04-23 05:44:47
<@792428046497611796> has reached level **9**. GG!
2021-04-23 12:46:11
<@228116142185512960> has reached level **6**. GG!
Crixis
2021-04-23 05:08:24
<:FeelsSadMan:808221433243107338>
Nova Aurora
2021-04-24 06:05:01
arewards
Arcane
2021-04-24 06:05:01
Nova Aurora
2021-04-24 06:05:22
alb
Arcane
2021-04-24 06:05:22
fab
2021-04-24 08:25:27
alb
Arcane
2021-04-24 08:25:28
Deleted User
2021-04-24 12:33:27
alb
Arcane
2021-04-24 12:33:27
2021-04-24 09:53:46
<@366018189643087873> has reached level **1**. GG!
2021-04-25 03:02:29
<@211191520768819201> has reached level **3**. GG!